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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by cjrleimer, Jun 16, 2012.
By the way..... the Games have started.
USA vs France women's soccer is now playing on 751
The internet streaming is beyond welcome-- and I think a lot of people are missing the point of the primetime coverage. Of course NBC could televise everything live if they wanted to -- but the "primetime model" as you call it is the same because that's where the money lies for them. It's where they still draw the biggest audience and generate the most advertising dollars. It makes no sense for them, monetary wise, to air big events live in the afternoon to a smaller audience, thereby reducing the maximum amount of viewers they could get at night time -- yes, even if they're on tape and people know the results.
I understand fully why they want to hold on to those events -- but at least this time they're giving hard-core fans the option of seeing them as they happen on their computers. That's a big change for the better.
Of course I also wish they'd go back to the "Triplecast" pay per view package of the Barcelona games. THAT was phenomenal -- multiple live channels, no commercials, everything live. It bombed for NBC, but for the viewers who had it, it enabled you to watch everything live as it happened, and experience the Olympics in a way I never have before or since...without any of the pre-packaged stuff. I wonder if it would be more successful in today's world if they tried it again. I'm sure there are some die-hard Olympics fans who would pay $200 to see everything live, in HD, with no commercials.
The online coverage of NBC is actually good quality, I watched a bit of the USA-FRA women's soccer today.
I thought the coverage online was great this morning. Watched the entire USA France womens match on my iPad. Picture quality was great even though we only have a 3Mbps DSL that actually comes in around 2.3 here at work. I downloaded both the standard and extra Apps for the iPad and both work really nice. A lot of work must have gone into getting these apps right. +1 for NBC
The NBCOlympics site is acting sort of strange for me. I wanted to click into a game in progress just to check out the PQ, but it says the game is "Starting Soon" even though it is clearly in progress according to the live stats.
Does anybody knows where I could watch Colombia vs North Korea?
With the rise of social media, it is a lot harder. I am already putting some sort of ban on my internet use, as with all the family I have in Europe, Canada, and the U.S. spread across many time zone, it is going to be hard to keep the results hidden. That said, my American EST friends are probably the most vocal on social media, and they will be watching it 3 hours ahead of me.
I go in to work early, and am home by 5 PM. If NBC-East would have opted to simulcast to a cable station, even if it is Universal HD in the Extra pack, I could have caught the Olympics at the same time.
I will live with it, as I will probably have my DVR recording Olympics all day, and I will catch up on the good stuff at 5 PM, followed by the prime time broadcast.
The Olympics by the way isn't the only problem. The West coast always gets screwed. This was not a problem 15 years ago, but now.... it is. Think American Idol for instance where who gets cut is all over the internet. Or a "snafu" on a LIVE taping of Jay Leno or David Letterman, which will conveniently be edited out for the showing on the west coast. Hell, on some of the big award shows (e.g. Oscars) we get tape-delayed because the east and the west both need to see it at 8 PM.
I know this is NEVER going to happen, but I would want both West and East DNS to be open for everyone. West coast stations wouldn't want this because people would DVR the east coast feeds and miss out on their commercials completely.
It's just that the world has changed.... and more and more I get spoiled with information that isn't aired for another 3 hours here. Everyone has facebook, everyone has smartphones.... and before you know it you forget about stuff, you pick up your phone and WHOOMP, there it is.... "So-and-so gets cut from American Idol". Okay, why bother watching it still.
And I KNOW this isn't going to change. We aren't going to get east coast feeds for important DNS networks. Not happening. But it would surely be a hell of a lot easier for TV planning these days.
Colombia vs North Korea on MSnbc.
On Television: MSNBC, channel 356
Neither Leno nor Letterman air live anywhere, including the East coast. Both shows are recorded the same day and done prior to 9pm Eastern, if not earlier. And all the "major" award shows (Oscars, Grammys, Emmys, even the Golden Globes) air live on the west coast, as well.
Can't help you with "Idol", but really, is it that big of a problem?
At least with the Olympics, you can watch it live online if you want to with no delay. The delay in the Columbia PRK match was due to a flag problem during the introduction of the PRK players. Once that was fixed, the match streamed live. PRK has a pretty good team with strong defense. Columbia looked kind of tired and had relatively weak defense.
It's just getting annoying. Saturday Night Live is still live, I was actually thinking about some live things that happened there.
Idol is just one show... I don't watch a whole lot of reality shows myself actually, and even those I generally DVR. It's just a general annoyance that the west coast always gets stuff 3 hours later, and I wish there was a solution to that. I know there really isn't, unless it is a cable show of which DirecTV mostly gets the EST version anyways.
The NBC Mess of 2010 was the worst though.... People near the border in Seattle were actually buying rabbit ears en-masse to pick up Canadian OTA broadcasts, so they could actually see the games LIVE, instead of waiting 3 hours to see what happened 50 miles North.
The next Winter games isn't going to be a big deal either, held in Russia they are a full 8 hours ahead of EST and 11 hours ahead of PST, virtually guaranteeing most of us will be asleep during any of the events.
2016.... will be interesting. At only 1 hour ahead of EST and 4 hours ahead of PST, will the west coast get shafted again? Some of the big events WILL most likely be held at prime time in Rio de Janeiro, so an event starting at 8PM there will start at 7PM in New York and can be live on NBC. But will the west coast once again get the middle finger because it is 4 PM and the 5 O'clock news anchors are crying foul?
Luckily, that's 4 years away, so we will see.... But in essence, sports should be LIVE. I understand NBC paid a hell of a lot of money for the rights and made a loss in 2008 and 2010 and is looking to recoup as much with their nightly broadcasts in prime time, but I believe sports should be live.
And for THIS, I commend NBC. I luckily have the option (as I have an old laptop hooked up to my TV) to stream anything to the big screen, so if needed.... that is what I will do. And I do really love that, it means I can see anything I want to see.
On the iPad it looked very good. Tonight I will run one of the replays online and mirror it through my Apple TV onto the screen in my theater room to see just how good the picture is. If it is not that good then I will likely do the upgrade to AT250 for a month and then go back to AT200.
For the opening ceremonies, what irritates me even more than editing and commercials, the yakking. Stop trying to interpret everything and just let us watch. Would be great if there was a commentator free SAP track.
Looks like crap on 3G. Literally crap.
And the stupid app doesn't rotate so you can't see the full title of the event.
Couldn't disagree more.
Many of us HD fans can manage to not get tipped off on sports results, preferring to see the actual event in HD, whether ten minutes or ten hours later.
There are several points that need to be made.
First, regarding the West Coast delay from East Coast in 2010. That was done to appease the NBC local affiliates who did not want to lose the income from their local and syndicated show advertising.
Secondly, remember that this is the last taped-delay Olympics that we will see. Remember last year when NBC beat ESPN and Fox in the bidding for the next four olympics. The head of NBC/Universal stated at that time that the Games would be broadcast live on television. There wasn't enough time to implement that plan for London (but they made an effort with the whole online broadcast on NBCOlympics.com).
Finally, if you look at the schedule of events posted at NBCOlympics.com, you will see that there are quite a few live events that are being broadcast both on the main network and on the cable outlets live. For example, all of Bravo's coverage will be live (call it the real "Breakfast at Wimbledon").
Are you really surprised at that? It's 3G. Even LTE/4G will have HD streaming problems at times, but on 3G it is really a crap shoot. Especially if you are on a well-used tower.