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DirecTV 2012 Olympics coverage

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by cjrleimer, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

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    They very well may. They my also have an HD mix channel for it. All of that will subject to issues that will have been handled behind the scenes and not simply by DirecTV deciding they want to. It's one of those scenarios where folks want to dramatically oversimplify things. It's complicated and has a lot of moving pieces.
     
  2. Quaker2001

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    It's not just about popularity or importance though. NBC paid over a billion dollars for 17 nights worth of the Olympics. They don't pay that much for anything else, including the NFL. People always make the argument that a hockey game or a football game would never get delayed because no one would watch. That logic is true. But the same logic doesn't apply to the Olympics where you're talking about events like a 2 minute swim race with competitors you've never seen or heard of before. That will draw viewers on delay whereas sitting through a 3 hour baseball game that you know the final score of.. not so much. West coast affiliates hate that type of scheduling because they get screwed. The difference is that you're talking about a few nights of disruption where there's no other option, not 17 where a delay to the West coast is unpopular, but acceptable.

    That's not going to help the affiliates though. If you take the NBC coverage (that they helped paid for) and put it on another channel, they don't get their local ads and they don't get the lead-in into their local programming. That's part of the problem NBC has that most other countries don't have to deal with. I suppose they could go with some sort of pay-per-view option, but we know how that went over before and that's a little bit of a slap in the face to West coast viewers they have to pay something the East coast gets for free.

    Honestly, I feel like that's the case for a lot of people, that they're holding the past against NBC and not realizing they've improved the product this time around. You have every right to be pissed off as a West coaster about the delay. I'd probably feel the same way you do if I lived out there. But that being said, I'd probably still be watching. Clearly NBC has improved a lot from Beijing and Vancouver and should make a lot of difference. Whether or not people notice and the constant barrage of complaints dies down remains to be seen. This is the Olympics.. it's next to impossible to make everyone happy given the 87,000 factors that go into how an Olympics gets covered.
     
  3. Sandra

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    Question...when televising soccer games, have they been leaving the game and going to commercials, and then returning? Or showing games straight thru like Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV?
     
  4. sigma1914

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    No commercials except during half.
     
  5. satexplorer

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    NBC Sports Network, Olympic Soccer channel, Olympic Basketball Channel, MSNBC & Telemundo will show sporting events live. Another alternative than "You need to watch your local NBC in Prime Time".

    No need for Korean channels? At least the South Korean girls are good at archery. :love1:
     
  6. mrlqban

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    You may still connect your laptop/PC over HDMI to the TV. No disrespect though.
     
  7. maartena

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    Yeah I have a laptop connected to the PC. The only REALLY BIG annoyance with NBC's online video is that you can't go truly full screen. And it is designed in such a way you can't really use the zoom feature on your TV either.

    The full screen picture perfectly aligns with the bottom, but has bars to each side and on the top, with London 2012 logo's on it etc. The bars take away quite a bit of real estate on your screen.

    They seem to be specifically designed to prevent people from enjoying full screen viewing of events live. Nevertheless, I will enjoy it anyways. Switching the quality to 1080p gives a crisp, clear picture. Too bad they don't allow true full screen.
     
  8. mrlqban

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    I never said that no one was watching. You are taking a very business like approach, im taking a sporting event entertainment approach. I said that everyone knew the results of that race already and I believe this alone ruins the experience for most sports fans. Now, does it ruin it for the average viewer who watches NBC for the sob stories and doesn't care who gets the bronze vs the gold? Probably not. Yes NBC is taking a step further with the online coverage this year and I support that 100% but in 2008 there was no choice but to watch a tape delayed race. The online move is not enough for the quality experience. Guess what is going to happen this year? Not the exact same thing, but similar as far as ratings. Track n Field and Swimming, and west coast fans are going online, because finally they have a choice. Most sob stories fans will be watching those events on prime time. How would I improve the experience?
    1. Live Stream opening and closing ceremony
    2. Find a way to simulcast live events shown on the east to west coast viewers
    3. Show most popular sports (at the very least medal events and finals) live on TV and then summarize in prime time
    4. keep the same model of coverage for the least popular sports.
    5. Copy BBC streaming media player technology (it's absolutely amazing what they've done with that)
    Is that too much to ask?
     
  9. Hoosier205

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    Well, that's why I will be using the BBC iPlayer. Live coverage with better commentary.
     
  10. mrlqban

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    Yep, I got my VPN ready :)
     
  11. Hoosier205

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    Exactly.
     
  12. mrlqban

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    DitecTV Olympics mix channel...I thought it would be HD, doesn't seem that way. Also, does anybody know if they will show all Olympics related channels? They still have NBA and ESPN channels in there.
     
  13. dvdmth

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    With the aid of a friend's laptop, I have a setup now for watching the Olympics on our TV. Seems to work OK, but I'm not getting surround sound - just regular stereo. Can anyone out there tell me if I should be getting surround sound from the online streams? The laptop is connected to the AVR via optical.
     
  14. tonyd79

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    My 750 mix is still showing directv logo. These channels have been a mess in all my receivers. Now I only one 751.
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    Only stereo.
     
  16. Laxguy

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    There's only speculation/guesses/WAGs right now as to the mix channel. Same for all channels, but fewer are saying they'll leave out anything important.
     
  17. Quaker2001

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    You said there would be absolutely no sense in watching a recorded event. About 20 million-plus people in 2008 apparently disagree with you. What a terrible experience that must have been that was so awful that they tuned in night after night for 2 weeks (how many other events out there can hold people's attention for that long). NBC execs have already said they expect lower ratings because they don't have that bump from some live coverage like they did in Beijing. Not much they can do about that, but it doesn't mean the primetime model as we know it needs to be put out to pasture. Wasn't true in 2008; still isn't true now.

    NBC is a business, not a public utility. I'm not saying what they do is right or what's going to make their consumers the happiest. But for better or worse, if they can exploit your anger into bigger profits with few repercussions, they're going to do it every time. Now if they only care about appeasing their customers and not about money (which isn't going to happen, it's a pipe dream to think it would), then maybe your suggestions would hold some water. But let's go at it 1 by 1...

    1. I won't argue with you there, I think it's a major fail on NBC's part not to live stream the ceremonies and I hope they change that for 2014.
    2. I assume you mean the events on NBC since the events on NBCSN and MSNBC and CNBC and Bravo and both the soccer and basketball channels are live to both coasts. Again, that's an affiliate issue. If they won't budge, it's not going to happen. Even still, the primetime show is taped anyway. The daytime coverage, that's an issue of the Today Show, so you have somewhat of an argument there.
    3. Still no. You have live online streaming of every event. You want it as it happens, that's an option. Primetime cannot be turned into a highlights show. It needs to be full of first run events, even if they're delayed. Everyone does not know all the results and even if they do, I think you're still over-estimating how many people consider it 'ruined.' The Olympics are about more than just the popular sports.. they only need to be shown once and they're better served in primetime when people are in front of their televisions, not in the middle of the afternoon when they're not, especially during the week. And if you think knowing the results ruins the primetime viewing experience, imagine how much it's going to ruin it if people know the results AND all the video they're watching has been shown already. That's not how you draw people in, especially for a 17-night event.
    4. In your scenario, you can't do that since you now want to take away coverage of those sports in the afternoon to show events you're already going to have in primetime. Not your best use of hours there.
    5. I'm not all that familiar with BBC's streaming, but I've heard it's pretty solid. Yes, NBC could use some improvement on that front, but considering they went from very little streaming in 2010 to everything streamed in 2012, I'll still call that progress.
     
  18. fluffybear

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    All of this can be accomplished but are you willing to pay for it?

    1 - NBC could offer this through a PPV channel. Charge something in the way of $50 and you could enjoy the opening & closing ceremonies live without commercials & NBC commentary from the world feed.

    2 - NBC could offer west coast affiliates the option of carrying an east coast feed on a digital sub-channel. The channel only be available to those who want to install a OTA antenna and may not be in HD but it's better then nothing.

    3 - Why would NBC want to show more popular events live during the day when ad rates are low and people could DVR them and watch them at night rather than tape delay those events at show them in prime time when ad rates are considerably higher?
    NBC could offer live coverage via a PPV service but I think memories of 1992 and the major flop of triple-cast still looms in the minds of many of their executives. Triple-cast was described afterwards as the biggest marketing disaster since 'New Coke' :eek2:

    4 - I don't think there has a been a olympics yet that a network has not been criticized for their poor coverage of lesser events and those which the USA was not fairing well in.
    The biggest issue here is to many events and far to little time and space to show them all in. On Saturday, 8 sports will give out 12 medals and on Saturday, August 11th, you will have 15 sports giving out 32 medals. As much as we all may dislike it, NBC has to pick & choose.
     
  19. zimm7778

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    I wonder though if it was one of those ideas a little before its time. It was over $100 for 3 channels that while yes they were running non stop, there were no DVRs to record what you really want to see if at work or asleep, there were no out if market sports packages if I recall that would desensitize people to it, and the average persons bill with HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime was what? $40? I'm not an olympics person at all. Am interested in nothing, will watch only what my wife forces me to watch, etc. But I think olympics on ppv like they did 20 years ago could work if priced right now.
     
  20. CincySaint

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    I just checked the guide and it shows 3D coverage of the opening ceremonies on channel 103 but it isn't showing until Saturday morning -- BOO!!!!!
     

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