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DIRECTV and HDNet Settle Lawsuit

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by tfederov, Dec 7, 2007.

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  1. Dec 7, 2007 #41 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Can you reference me back to what post you are referring to, so we can get on the same page...
     
  2. Dec 7, 2007 #42 of 124
    davemayo

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    But as more channels are added to the Extra package, that package will become more attractive to subs, right?.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2007 #43 of 124
    gcisko

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    Post #33 of this thread...

    "Edit: Well.. you look and find:
    "Enhance your HD experience with a special group of high-definition-only channels that are not available in standard def. Add DIRECTV HD Extra Pack ($4.99/mo.) along with HD Access ($9.99/mo.) to your base package to enjoy these exciting HD-only channels. "

    On their main DirecTV/HD page

    Guess they will be changing that statement soon..."


    Am I reading this correct? You now know why everyone thinks that the HD extra is supposed to be any HD channel not also simulcast in SD.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2007 #44 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Where does it state that it is "simulcasts".

    Those channels listed don't have SD duplicates.... doesn't mean EVERY channel that doesn't have an SD duplicate is going to be in the Extra Pack.
    You could argue that everyone one of those channels... the content is available in SD... except maybe Smith and HDNet (Even though that is not 100% of the time)

    Nor do those included in the base packages, have to be simulcasts.
     
  5. Dec 7, 2007 #45 of 124
    Drew2k

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    Hopefully, but how long will that take? We have people not willing to pay $1 a month for the channels in the package, so what is the cost-to-channel breakdown where people will suddenly decide it's worth paying extra?
     
  6. Dec 7, 2007 #46 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    There were plenty of people not willing to pay $9 for the original package either.

    There are people that will never find it worth paying for...
     
  7. Dec 7, 2007 #47 of 124
    Drew2k

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    Earl, I did find this passage on DIRECTV's site:

    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/search/searchResults.jsp?_requestid=660416

    And don't forget that the Plus HD DVR package includes HD Access. DIRECTV HD Extra Pack contains unique HD channels that don't have a standard definition simulcast such as Smithsonian HD and HDNet. And don't forget that the Plus HD DVR package includes HD Access. DIRECTV HD Extra Pack contains unique HD channels that don't have a standard definition simulcast such as Smithsonian HD and HDNet.​

    (Bold added by me.)
     
  8. Dec 7, 2007 #48 of 124
    davemayo

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    That's right. At some point we'll reach the tipping point. For me, its $60 a year, big deal. Just like anything else, if I want it, I'll pay for it.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2007 #49 of 124
    carl6

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    Of the channels going to the new HD Extra tier, the Smithsonian Channel is the only one that draws me strongly. Unfortunately, $5 a month is too much for one channel.

    Had DirecTV raised the general HD access fee by $5, I would have complained, but paid. This alternate approach of creating the HD Extra tier does not make sense to me, and as a customer, does not attract me to want to pay for it.

    If they add additional channels in the future, I might reconsider. For now, I'll have to stay without it.

    Carl
     
  10. Dec 7, 2007 #50 of 124
    VLaslow

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    Well, I guess I will, occasionally, be able to help Dan Rather with his viewer count.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2007 #51 of 124
    bhelton71

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    Devils advocate view subtitle: the 180 degree approach:

    Why can't I opt out of "Channels without an HD counterpart" - aka the "SD Extra tier " ?
     
  12. Dec 7, 2007 #52 of 124
    gcisko

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    I predict it still is not good enough :D
     
  13. Dec 7, 2007 #53 of 124
    gcisko

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    Are you serious with this????
     
  14. Dec 7, 2007 #54 of 124
    paulman182

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    Actually, I suppose DirecTV can use any criteria it wants to place channels in the pack, as long as it is consistent with its provider contracts, and not even tell us what that criteria is. I don't see the big deal about the minor change to the package.

    I do think that if anyone signed up for the package based on HDNet's presence in it, they should be notified and given the opportunity to cancel before they are charged for it.

    I will take the package as the two channels that matter to me are still in it. In fact, I would pay $4.99/mo for MGM HD alone.
     
  15. Dec 7, 2007 #55 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Well then master psycic.... guess you are wrong on that prediction.

    I predict... that you will see some wording changed on DirecTV's website.
     
  16. Dec 7, 2007 #56 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    110%

    And between the time I posted that... and you asking if I was serious...
    Drew pointed me to the place where they refer to the SD Simulcasts.

    As for the rest of the statement....
    I stand by it.

    As noted in my post just before this...
    I predict you will see some re-wording of what HD Extra Pack will contain.
     
  17. Dec 7, 2007 #57 of 124
    spartanstew

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    But it doesn't say that EVERY unique HD channel (without a SD simulcast) will be in the extra pack.

    I don't think they need to change their wording as it's still accurate, right?
     
  18. Dec 7, 2007 #58 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    If you take the words verbatium and don't assign anymore meaning to them then what is written... then no, it doesn't need to be changed as it is accurate.

    But to avoid confusion and customers deriving their own interpretation of what it means... then yes... the wording should be changed.
     
  19. Dec 7, 2007 #59 of 124
    Nick

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    The...
    I had Dish for five years, but because of my current six-display tv distribution system,
    and my physical limitations resulting from a stroke, it is no longer practical for me to
    have and maintain a DBS system, as much as I would like to have 50, 75 or 100HD
    channels, but my local Comcast franchise is currently installing and testing their new
    Switched Digital Video service (SDV) which is analogous to DoD and will provide
    on-demand access to much more hi-def programming, particularly HD movies.

    Except for the current dearth of HD channels, I am very satisfied with Comcast's
    lineup and service. For example, I have over 75 premium movie channels, and
    last Friday morning I called Comcast's 800 number for service on one of my three
    incoming RG-6 lines and two Comcast techs were here the same day, before noon!
     
  20. Dec 7, 2007 #60 of 124
    gcisko

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    I am sure it will change. But it does currently say that the extra package are for channels not simulcast in HD. Are you claiming it does not say that? I guess I just do not understand.
     
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