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DIRECTV and HDNet Settle Lawsuit

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by tfederov, Dec 7, 2007.

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  1. Dec 7, 2007 #81 of 124
    tonyd79

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    Sure they are. Food HD just shows the shows they have HD for. They filter out the SD. That is the only difference. You may not like the choices but that is what it is based on.
     
  2. Dec 7, 2007 #82 of 124
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    There is nothing wrong with a company advertising their product in a way that portrays their product in a flattering way. In fact, if my marketing guys weren't doing that they would be walking the plank. It comes down to who is doing the advertising. The more accurate advertising for DirecTV is high def-capable. Doe anyone really dispute that? But generalizing them as high def channels might make some think that all the channels are showing high def content now. And if they get more customers because they misunderstood the ad, then great. Do you really think the ad guys didn't know what they were doing?
     
  3. Dec 7, 2007 #83 of 124
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    I guess it comes down to whether ma and pa, after they've purchased those DirecTV-advertised "70 high def channels", are going to turn on their tv tonight and expect to see high def on at least most of the 70 channels, doesn't it? I think they will expect it. And the providers didn't advertise they would get them. DirecTV did.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2007 #84 of 124
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    This is stupid.

    They are HD channels. They broadcast in HD. What they show is up to them.

    Heck, I am GLAD to get an HD version of a channel that shows a lot of SD (if they don't stretch it) because the PQ is going to be better than the SD version.

    But, even though I detest stretching as completely moronic, I don't yell at DirecTV to advertise non-stretched HD channels.

    Sheesh.

    BTW, FX was a channel that was bashed when it first came on. Now they are showing a lot of movies in fullscreen HD. How do you count that one?
     
  5. Dec 7, 2007 #85 of 124
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    Oh, you mean the HD logo on the channels that are stretching SD? I see those as ads....

    Just stop the bashing. That is all this is.
     
  6. Dec 7, 2007 #86 of 124
    gcisko

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    So what exactly do you expect? 100% HD all the time? The channels in quesiton are indeed HD as others have said. It is just that the content has to come up to speed. I have seen quite a bit on History and A&E and Discovery already that is HD. Plus, they just made them available to us. If it is still like this in a couple of years, then I think you are correct. As it stands now, there is no way I can argree with you at all. I doubt many will.
     
  7. Dec 7, 2007 #87 of 124
    jjohns

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    I expect ma and pa will.
     
  8. Dec 7, 2007 #88 of 124
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    HUH????? Nobody was or is assuming anything. That is and continues to be DirecTV's description of what the "HD Access" is and what channels it covers.... any available HD counterparts of the SD channels that they subscribe to…. with the remaining HD channels that were not included in HD access going into the new HD Extra tier. Their FAQ on their website defines simulcast channels as “A channel / network that is broadcast simultaneously in both HD and SD”, and explicitly states, “The number of HD simulcast channels that are available is based on your base package. These networks are available with the HD Access fee”. It's clear that according to DirecTV’s own definitions, if it was a simulcast channel it would be included in HD Access, so I’m baffled at how you can say that they have never stated that it was due to the lack of simulcast... that's what DirecTV says determines what's included in HD Access. The fact that it wasn’t a simulcast channel was also a large part of DirecTV’s failed argument against HDNet’s request for a temporary restraining order.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2007 #89 of 124
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    EVERY provider advertises the HD channels this way. Comcast even advertises that they have over 200 HD programs at any given time. Come on do you think that ma and pa are stupid??
     
  10. Dec 7, 2007 #90 of 124
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    Why would they need to change it? It's still true. None of the HD Extra channels have SD counterparts. The problem wasn't with DirecTV creating a tier of channels with no SD counterparts, the problem was that their contract with HDNet had language that was intended to prevent HDNet's channels from being placed in such a tier.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2007 #91 of 124
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    You might want to change that "programs" to "channels".
    Or were you just trying to trick ma and pa again?
     
  12. Dec 7, 2007 #92 of 124
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    That's what this whole thing has always been about.... an extra cost tier where DirecTV could place HD channels if the channel provider don't "play ball" during negotiations and sell them at a price cheap enough to be included in a lower cost package. The problem was, HDNet argued (somewhat successfully) that DirecTV couldn't just do that under the terms of the existing contract
     
  13. Dec 7, 2007 #93 of 124
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    Well if you want to say channels then there are 70 channels of HD content as the channels are being broadcast in 720p or 1080i, which IS HD. The shows just aren't in 16:9 aspect.
     
  14. Dec 7, 2007 #94 of 124
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    Just show me the button that turns it on.
     
  15. Dec 7, 2007 #95 of 124
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    Sources suggest that the settlement was for more than a year and less than forever.
     
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    Good luck!
     
  17. Dec 7, 2007 #97 of 124
    gcisko

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    But what exactly do you expect? 100% HD now???
     
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    Not to play into the trolls hands, but turns WHAT on? If you tune to one of those channels and look at the indicator on the box, it shows either 720p or 1080i.

    How far do you think DirecTV would get if they started advertising that they "have over 70 HD channels, but some of those channels may only carry true HD content for three hours over prime-time" or "we have over 70 HD channels, but the content provider may or may not actually provide us with true HD content in their broadcasts" or "we carry TBS-HD, but in all honesty, the vast majority of what they broadcast that they claim is HD content is really 4:3 aspect ratio content stretched to fill a 16:9 aspect ratio screen"? I can almost guarantee you that the channel providers would put a stop to that pronto. But would THAT satisfy you if they advertised that way?

    DirecTV can't force Sci-Fi HD to broadcast true HD content 24/7 any more than it can force Lifetime to broadcast movies that put men in a good light.

    Almost makes me glad I've got real problems in my life if not having them means I'm taking up causes like how deceptive it is to advertise the carriage of HD channels and then be taken to task when the content PROVIDER doesn't live up to some customer's standards. Ee-gad!
     
  19. Dec 7, 2007 #99 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Then again... by your definition...

    There are only maybe 2 or 3 HD Networks...... Anywhere
    You could include some more if you want to include the VooM networks...

    Based on your definition on HD Networks... you are minimum of 5 years away from that possibly being a reality where absolutely nothing less then HD defined programming is broadcasted.
     
  20. Dec 7, 2007 #100 of 124
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    In my personnel opinion, they DirectV should just have raised the cost for all HD to 19.99 a month. Just get the monthly raises done now all at one time. Include any and all HD channels right now. They, DirectV are nickel and diming there customers to death by this method. More for them, less for us the customers. Its almost like they want some of the HD channels to fail. We all know that come the spring time, DirectV will be raising rates again. So come March or so the cost goes up another 4% for all packages. Just do the raise now and get it over with as our Christmas present from them. Yes DirectV will be raising ther rates. They are getting to be like cablee now. Raise the rates TWICE a Year and they will come. Talk about COX or COMCAST raising rates all you want. But DirectV has done the same thing this year to its customers. A basic rate increase in Feb, now a raise for HD. All we the customer can do is cancel some of our present programing to offset there increases. It is a good thing that HDNET won half the battle they were fighting. But we all know this is a temporary situation for one year as long as they have there current deal in place. Then the cost will go up. So, lets just raise the price now to the 19.99 and match Dishes price to ther customers. Because this is where it will end up in a year.
     
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