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DIRECTV and Tivo to Launch new HD DVR in 2010

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Tom Robertson, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. Steve

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    I seriously doubt the hardware will be any more expensive than a DirecTV box.

    Their October earnings press release stated: "[...] With the new deal, DIRECTV will begin marketing a version of the TiVo service that is built on DIRECTV's broadband-enabled HD DVR platform. [...]"

    So the new DirecTiVo software will run on a box that also runs the current HD DVR software. Whether that's an existing HR20/21/22/23 or an "HR2-come" remains to be seen. /steve
     
  2. joshjr

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    Im not really saying I dont agree with that. Im just betting that if people really knew the differences and knew that it was a superior product that alot of people would be willing to buy. Whats really kills it now is the lease and contract. With the economy bad people are less app to pay top dollar for a DVR. Its the future though so its gonna happen eventually. I guess I see your point though as far as making a superior product for now. That being said didnt I just read not to long ago about a new Dish DVR that records 4 things at once? Obviously there is still a market to create better DVR's for even if that means paying more for the hardware.
     
  3. Doug Brott

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    I believe that it will be very unlikely that any existing DIRECTV box will be field upgradable. That being said, I see no reason why it couldn't be the same box .. just that the actual load would need to be in-house to insure that the receiver was not bricked in the process.
     
  4. Max Mike

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    If by flock you mean a handful then yes.

    Not at $600. A $600 DVR would not only have to be a superior but have a massively improved feature set to justify that price over the $200 HR-2X even for techies who have to have the latest. Have we learned nothing from Blu-Ray.

    $600 is a price guaranteed to produce a failure.
     
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    Well that price is what the Tivo XL is now.It has a 1TB HDD.

    I would believe that DirecTV will have Tivo manufacture a HDDVR with a smaller HDD to keep the prices lower say $299. that's what the regular Tivo HDDVR is now.Those that want more recording capacity can get an external HDD addition.:rolleyes:
     
  6. Steve

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    Like it says above, the DirecTiVo software will run on the same box as an existing DirecTV broadband-enabled HD DVR, so the hardware cost should be the same. The only question in my mind is what the monthly TiVo service upcharge will be. /steve
     
  7. Doug Brott

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    My thoughts exactly and that upcharge could range from zero to up to $10/receiver .. most likely it's somewhere in between, just guessing I'd say either $5 additional per account (TiVo fee on top of DVR fee) .. BUT .. it's possible it could be $5/receiver. All really depends on how much TiVo wants in their coffers.
     
  8. Steve

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    I agree. I'm thinking a $4.95-$9.95 per month "TiVo" account-based service charge would not be unreasonable. Hopefully closer to $4.95. :) /steve
     
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    I am ready to change my two SD DVR's for two HD DVR's. my question to this group is if I payed the $400.00 to change to HD now, and then the tivos came out,would I have to return the two HD DVR's, and Purchase the new boxes as well, in other words I would be paying twice.

    I am trying to see if it would be better for me to suffer through with what i have until tivo is released>

    And with the 18" round dish, will I need to have my dish changed out to go to HD?

    Help Please, Thanks
     
  10. NickIndy

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    I think TiVo should explore this revenue stream. Just like Coke has done in the past to restaurants that served Pepsi when the customer asked for Coke. They should be going out and getting money out of Best Buy and other stores that try to sell other DVRs by calling them TiVo. I'm thinking this copyright infringement is fairly wide spread.
     
  11. NickIndy

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    My 2 year commitment is over 2/2010. If it's not out by then or coming out soon I'm going to dust off the S3 TiVo and go back to cable with the tuning adapter. My local cable company is quickly gaining on D* HD channels, especially the ones I actually watch.
     
  12. bonscott87

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    So what has been Tivo's problem all these good years until recently? ;)

    Seriously, Tivo's market share has been dropping like a rock for years, being better isn't really in most people's equation. People are just looking to replace their VCR and frankly any old crappy cable DVR can do that.

    And the marketplace over the years is riddled what "superior" products that have failed. Beta was better then VHS but VHS won out because of lower price.

    Look, I'm not saying that DirecTV shouldn't have a Tivo option, I mean, what do I care, choices are always good. But to think that Tivo is now going to take the world by storm with this product, even after the recession is over is frankly really stretching it. The masses just aren't going to pay extra and frankly, you think DirecTV is going to allow marketing that says the new DirecTivo is so worth the upcharge and thus it suggests their own DVRs are crap? I highly doubt that will happen unless DirecTV goes "all in" with Tivo and dumps their own line. ;)
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    Who knows .. you might be able to work something out or you might not be able to work something out .. My guess is that it will be tough, but it's just a guess.

    As for suffering through? Nobody knows when or if the TiVo will be available .. I'm not even sure that TiVo knows at this point .. The press release announcing this new TiVo stated second half of 2009 .. but the most recent news has been "no comment." You can take that for what it's worth.
     
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    I suspect tivo has been quiet about it for this very reason. Directv doesnt want their customers standing around waiting another year or so for the tivo. It wants them to make a decision right now with the products currently available.
     
  15. Tom Robertson

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    Quiet is one thing. Silent at investors conferences is quite another.

    Then again, the analysts ain't asking either...

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  16. Steve

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    DirecTV was silent, but TiVo brought it up at their last conference on 11/26. :)

    Come to think of it, there should be another TiVo analyst briefing right about now, no? For the quarter ending January 31? /steve
     
  17. bonscott87

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    March 2nd, 2pm I believe is the time. I plan to listen in for any tidbits.
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    Apparently .. The next earnings announcement from TIVO is expected the week of March 2, 2009.
     
  19. Steve

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    Excellent news. I'd be shocked if they weren't asked for a DirecTV progress report, especially since they made a point of talking about it at the last update. /steve
     
  20. Max Mike

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    Yea that is the price of the Tivo XL and $299 for the regular Tivo HDDVR... AND Tivo has lost 20% of its subscriber base in the last two years.
     
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