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DIRECTV and Tivo to Launch new HD DVR in 2010

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Tom Robertson, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. Jun 2, 2009 #3141 of 3658
    jacmyoung

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    Just proved my point, if D* were interested in TiVo's success, at least they would first show some interest in their own D*TiVo success, for example by telling those subs look we are working hard on the new TiVo DVRs for you guys.

    You do not hear any words from D* other than hey why don't you just switch to our own DVRs? Does that sound like D* is interested in TiVo's success?
     
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    jacmyoung

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    For the sake of TiVo's success, D* could of course not have switched over those MPEG2 HD channels, and let them stay for a while for the sake of those D*TiVo subs, but they did not, again not a behavior that demonstrated that D* was interested in TiVo's success.
     
  3. Jun 2, 2009 #3143 of 3658
    jacmyoung

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    "Not interested" is a better phrase.

    Of course there was interest on the D* part to retain those loyal D*TiVo subs, but if D* in the process sees less and less need to go through the hassle to retain those subs, for example when they saw those D*TiVo subs had no difficulties switching to D*'s own DVRs, then over time there might be less interest on D*'s part to get the new unit out as initially planned.
     
  4. Jun 2, 2009 #3144 of 3658
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    In all of the TiVo's license agreements, whether with D*, Comcast...no one asked them to build the hardware for them. In fact TiVo made a point of such arrangement, saves them all the manufacturing expenses.
     
  5. Jun 2, 2009 #3145 of 3658
    Tom Robertson

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    Another, simpler explanation is that DIRECTV doesn't promote things before they are ready.

    And the transition to MPEG4 has been underway long before this contract was initiated.

    Was there a time when DIRECTV "wasn't interested" in TiVo's future? Well... that is probably hard to say--they have always maintained a relationship with them, paid fees, and continued contracts. That said, obviously they stopped using TiVo's set top boxes for awhile.

    Is DIRECTV more committed to TiVo now? I sure think so. They could have signed a basic contract extension, but instead worked toward this agreement with more fees and requirements of DIRECTV for a product I think they think will help them. :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
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    Tom Robertson

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    That is the current TiVo arrangement. Previously they were in the hardware business.
     
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    And they still are, but hardware business has not been associated with such licensing agreement model. My point was, it was not unusual for D* not to "ask" TiVo to build the hardware for them as part of the licensing agreement.

    Whether D* is more committed to TiVo or not we can agree to disagree.
     
  8. Jun 3, 2009 #3148 of 3658
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    Directv has a history of NOT advertising something in any way until its actually working, unless its a broad stroke kind of thing.. The last time they did any marketing, and it was only a little in store stuff, for a piece of hardware before it came out, it was the SRHD-500, the first HD receiver with an integrated OTA tuner with the regular sat guide.. And it was 9 months late on delivery, so I can see why you won't hear a peep out of Directv till it actually hits.. Plus in this economy, spending money on advertising something that you don't even have a firm date on is stupid.. Plus, why would you advertise it now and take away possible sales of current units because people may hold off rather than get anything.. It is far more logical for Directv to keep everything on the back burner, like they do with everything else, from a marketing standpoint until something actually hits...
     
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    I don't think Directv is spending a dime until its time to market tivo on this new product.. Because any new hardware they create for it will also be for their platform, so they'd be spending the money on it anyway...
     
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    Again I have to ask this question"Which HDDVR should DirecTV tell it's HD subscriber's to get"?.After all at this time there is only one the DirecTV HDDVR+.

    It seems like you are suggesting DirecTV does not want to work with Tivo even though DirecTV signed an agreement with Tivo.That DirecTV is going to try and back out of their agreement with Tivo.I for one hope that's definitely not the case just look how Tivo is mopping the floor with Dish!.Tivo:2 Dish:0.:kickbutt:

    DirecTV you made the right decision!.:goodjob:
     
  11. Jun 3, 2009 #3151 of 3658
    Ken S

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    It depends on what you mean by spending money. I would guess they have some employees partially/fully dedicated to the Tivo project. Employees generally get paid and usually it's more than a dime.
     
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    Curious on your meaning of "After all at this time there is only one the DirecTV HDDVR+" - where do you see only 1 Directv DVR

    If you look back of the thread and the various press releases you will see that the Directv DVR will be the standard offering, the other unit will be available when requested and more then likely have an additional surcharge on it

    >>>>>
    Like prior products developed by TiVo and DIRECTV, the new HD offering will be marketed and sold by DIRECTV nationally to its entire customer base as part of its growing portfolio of brand name video offerings. Specific consumer pricing and packaging will be announced in conjunction with DIRECTV's launch of the product.

    "As the industry's content and technology leader, DIRECTV has a long-standing reputation for developing innovative, advanced products and services, including our highly successful series of DVRs and HD DVRs," said Chase Carey, president and CEO, DIRECTV, Inc. "We will continue to work with TiVo and make this new product available to all new and existing DIRECTV customers who may want to add TiVo on top of our industry leading experience."
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    As of today 6-3-2009 if you want DirecTV's MPEG4 HD channels you would have to get DirecTV's HDDVR+ HR2x.Then in the first half of 2010 the new MPEG4 HD DirecTivo is supposed to be available.;)
     
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    wingrider01

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    figured - but there are more then 1 HR2X

    Currently have

    2 - HR20
    1 - HR21

    and hopefully soon a HR23

    Those are 3 distinct models, not 1

    The Tivo unit is a non-issue here, it has nothing that I need or that I don't already have on the HR2x's that is even remotely worthwhile
     
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    well, that's a little disingenuous...the choices really are a Mustang, and Mustang with a red stripe, and a Mustang with a moon roof...
     
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    I'll go with that...software-wise, there's hardly any difference...and they took out something with the 08 model (OTA tuners), so it's actually worse...

    for all intents and purposes, from a user point of view, they are pretty much identical...
     
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    Richierich

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    I heard from a Senior Directv CSR that the NEW MPEG-4 Directivo unit would have 4 tuners which really BLEW me away and would be Great if it is True!!!
     
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