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DIRECTV and Tivo to Launch new HD DVR in 2010

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Tom Robertson, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. Curtis0620

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    Have you looked at the current TiVo features? DLB is worth it alone.
     
  2. jjohns

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    Got to agree with you there. Based on the 137,210 (and counting) views regarding dual live buffers, I believe the HR would be the Titanic here.
     
  3. t_h

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    A box I can count on 99.9% of the time to record and playback my shows without adding extra drama and comedy, and is responsive to the remote control is about the only great feature that I need and am not getting right now.
     
  4. RaceTripper

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    You missed my point evidently. Whizz bang features don't matter right now. People are worried about their jobs, and aren't looking to increase their D* bill. I'm reasonably comfortable and my job is pretty safe, but I'm more likely to do without D* altogether (and put the money in savings) than to increase my bill.

    D* won't make a premium Tivo DVR service successful by just selling it to the Tivo fans.

    I don't have to look at current Tivo features. I don't really care much about DLB. I care about MRV, but won't pay extra for it.
     
  5. Syzygy

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    Yes, yes, yes, no, yes.

    Here's hoping any new TiVo has an option to defeat any "picture-in-whatever" so-called "feature".
     
  6. JTWestside

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    I think Doug Brott has it right all the way around here. The fact is that TiVo isn't going to kill itself by over pricing the thing. I miss DLB as much as the next guy (probably more than him actually) but this thing is going to have to have more than that and more than what the HR20 offers to get anything more than a couple of bucks from me. And I'm not worried about loosing my job. Unfortunately that's not the case with a large portion of the country right now so you tell me what that means for the pricing.

    As for what the agreement DIRECTV already has, as well as the purchased intellectual property of REPLAY and what that means. I guess that remains to be seen. However I can say that I'm not worried about my job because I'm in the business working for a company that outsources business functions to save money and I can tell you that when it comes to dollars and cents if DIRECTV can get development done cheaper buy letting TiVo do it they should (and probably will).
     
  7. JTWestside

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    Not to get off topic but ... what ever happened to BETTER THAN DLB?
     
  8. texasbrit

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    I guess we just have to wait and see. My decision will be based on (1) what does it offer over the then-current available products (remember we are talking about some time in 2010 here) and (2) how much will it cost.
    I am one of the people who basically do not have any real problems with the HR2x DVRs - I have an HR20-700, an HR20-100 and an HR21-200. . They are a bit slow (maybe we will get a faster processor before 2010) but I have not had a missed recording as long as I can remember, and I have had a total of two lockups in the last 18 months. I just set up my series links and then watch the recorded programming. OTA works well, VOD works fine, all the other basic features of the system work the way they are supposed to.
    I don't really care about DLB because like many DVR owners I virtually never watch live TV. And I would be very unhappy to see DLB if I lost my 90-minute live buffer as a result, because that's something I do use.
    Unless the TiVo offers me some great new capability I can't see me being willing to pay anything much for the new TiVo box. I don't know how many million DirecTV DVR users there will be by the time the TiVo box is released but I suspect only a very small percentage of them will care. It is going to take some very careful pricing to make the TiVo product successful alongside whatever other box DirecTV is offering in 2010.
     
  9. Curtis0620

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    Sure, why buy a BMW when you are happy with your Kia.
     
  10. Crypter

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    This thread is such a waste of time.

    I will be VERY surprised if we EVER see a new DirecTivo box. That press release was probably just propaganda to try and sell more subscriptions. IMO
     
  11. jjohns

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    In 2010, if the users look back two years into the HRxx archives and see that they are experiencing the exact same problems they had in 2008, like we can now look back two years and see we are experiencing the exact same problems as in 2006 – I would suggest that some might have reason to exit the HRxx ship.
     
  12. Jhon69

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    Because the BMW might be twice as good as the KIA?.;):D
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    Of course some people will switch to the new TiVo .. If that weren't the case, then why even make it?
     
  14. Stuart Sweet

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    It seems to me....

    If you look back 10 years at TiVo's history, and see that we are still having some of the same problems that were had 10 years ago....

    But I guess that is too logical.

    I'll admit I wasn't there ten years ago. I remember tivocommunity.com had a monstrously long thread about six years ago asking where certain advanced features were. I guess you're right, things don't change :D
     
  15. RaceTripper

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    :lol: I got rid of my BMW M3 last September in exchange for a MINI John Cooper Works.

    I am happy with my MINI.
     
  16. Jhon69

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    Thought it was reported that DirecTV thought it wasn't worth the money to fight a lawsuit.:eek2:
    But I also know there will be subscribers that believe the DirecTivo will be better.;)
    But if the new DirecTivo does not have PIG,one button record,2 90 minute live buffers,First Air Date when you just press More Info,be able to go all the way to the left and press Info to bring up a programming list for that channel while your still in the grid guide,hard drive space meter(I know there are more important features to others,but these are mine because they are missing on my HR10-250) a new DirecTivo will not interest me.:rolleyes:
     
  17. hdtvfan0001

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    I know one owner who has never missed their Tivobox...:D
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    Except DIRECTV and TiVo already have cross-licensing agreements in place through 2018 :confused:
     
  19. Lord Vader

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    Now how's that going to work when the world is going to end on December 21, 2012?!?

    :confused:
     
  20. loudo

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    I can remember one incident with the TIVO HR10-250's, that lasted for about a week, when scheduled recordings were not recording and boxes were randomly re-booting. My wife won't let me forget about that, when her soaps didn't get recorded.
     
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