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DIRECTV Announces First 12 Markets to Receive Local Channels in High-Definition

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Chris Blount, Jan 6, 2005.

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  1. Skyboss

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    Yes, however, this is a subscriber product not a consumer electronics product. The loopholes and agreements to get it to market are not as big an issue as the HD TiVo unit.
     
  2. sunking

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    I don't know what loopholes and agreements you are talking about. My understanding was that the HDTivo was late because of technical reasons.

    But this isn't really the point. The point is that at this moment it seems that the sats will be up and broadcasting before most people can get a receiver or perhaps even the new dish config that may be needed. How many HD subscribers will there be in the first 12-24 markets? Even at a million, how many receivers can they crank out to meet that demand? That's about 2500/day for a year. And I think that 1million initial is a pretty low estimate considering that these markets include probably the most afluent areas.

    When these sats turn on there is no way that everyone who can get the signal will have the required hardware.
     
  3. Skyboss

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    Dude. Stop. The product is in production okay? Humax is making the HDDVR and it will be out by Christmas.
     
  4. Jacob S

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    Are they not planning on releasing the rest of the local markets in SD? I wonder if these new MPEG-4 receivers will be able to downconvert HD into SD for those that do not have HD televisions yet. This could allow them to shut the SD feeds off in those markets that have HD once everyone is swapped out giving more space for more HD but if its cost prohibitive on the receiver end more than on the satellite in then this may not happen.

    Looks like everyone is getting a brand new system (new dish and receivers). Seems pretty sweet for those in the HD markets. I wonder how many people will be doing a change of "physical address" to try to get the HD locals and new hardware.
     
  5. Adam Richey

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    Anybody know if it's JUST going to be ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX? I want UPN and WB HD just as much as FOX HD. The others aren't that crucial to me.
     
  6. Skyboss

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    Are they not planning on releasing the rest of the local markets in SD? I wonder if these new MPEG-4 receivers will be able to downconvert HD into SD for those that do not have HD televisions yet. This could allow them to shut the SD feeds off in those markets that have HD once everyone is swapped out giving more space for more HD but if its cost prohibitive on the receiver end more than on the satellite in then this may not happen.

    In the future there will only one box and it will do exactly what you suggest.
     
  7. tkrandall

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    In general, how good is DBS HD compared to local OTA HD?

    I fear DTV/Dish may just ends up overcompressing it, in which case what will be the point of having it?
     
  8. dswallow

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    The way they worded it as "primary networks" sure seems to indicate some will be left out; I've not seen anything clarifying it down to specific networks yet.

    All our guesses seem to indicate the bandwidth is there not just to cover the networks but every individual channel. But there'sprobably more to it than just bandwidth -- such as facilities to handle the encoding.
     
  9. ocnier

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    Bob, you of all people know the pain of Dish equipment. Yeah, the HD tivo maybe obsolete in a year, but at least the IT WORKED CORRECTLY! This is a stark contrast to the trash equipment Dish put out (speaking as a former 921 owner). Hell, your icon even says 921 crash dummy under it ( :grin: ). The crash in "crash dummy" pretty much sums up the entire experience concerning Dish equipment.
     
  10. andrewhome

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    Does anyone know if the placement of these new satellites will be a higher degree of inclination ( higher above the horizon) than the current HD sat?

    I live near NYC and I can get the 101 sat just fine but I cannot get the current HD sat because it is at 20 degrees of inclination & I am blocked by trees I cannot cut down.
     
  11. TotallyPreWired

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    I doubt that the inclination will change, but the 2 new Spaceway satellites are supposed to be going in at 99° and 103°, so I think that you should be ok.

    ....jc
     
  12. dswallow

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    The 3 Ka-band satellites being launched this year by DirecTV are going at 99°, 101° and 103° (DirecTV 8 at 101°; SpaceWay to the others).
     
  13. otisanche

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    I don't understand about MPEG-4 Stuff. Does that mean that all current HD receivers (Tivo or just regular non-Tivo) will not be able to carry the new HD channels? Or is that info just referring to the HD Tivo receivers. Also someone from Dallas stated the received cbs HD through directv how are they getting that signal? last time I checked only NBC & Fox were coming through the HD channels.
    Thanks for the help.
     
  14. TotallyPreWired

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    The current generation of D* HD receivers will not decode MPEG4, so when D* starts broadcasting MPEG4, you're SOL(Tivo & non-Tivo). However, there is some confusion on when D* will start broadcasting with MPEG4.

    D* now has national feeds of all of the major networks in HD(ABC,CBS,NBC & FOX). I get NBC, but for what I get, It's not worth the $$$.

    ....jc
     
  15. BobMurdoch

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    When they do switch to Mpeg4 it will be like the Dish500 switchover. Those who don't upgrade just on't see the new channels on their guides. Upgrade and you will. Don't upgrade and keep the channels that you have (at least until they decide to turn them off, but that should be after a significant amount of time)
     
  16. drjenk

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    I'm feeling the spite already, and am seriously contemplating selling my HD tivo on ebay (no doubt for a loss), and going comcast. I'm am sure not going to have 2 dishes hanging off my house, which it sounds like I would need to do, or would I just need to re-aim my existing one?. This really pisses me off to be frank. I feel like directv is really letting down it's customers changing compression technology like that, necessary or not. BS to the Nth degree.
     
  17. rh26

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    I'll give you $200 for it! :grin:
     
  18. beasst37799

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    i would suggest to all that we just take a wait and see approach for now
     
  19. Crystal Pepsi Ball

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    West Valley...
    No where in the press release does it say that customers will need 2 dishes to get HD locals, it states that customers will need a slightly larger dish to get all channels. I also believe that the new satellites will be at 99 and 103, so I believe that the new dish will possibly have 5 LNBs (99, 101, 103, 110, and 119).

    However, this again is speculation. This will be very interesting as to what eventually happens.

    :flag:
     
  20. nuzzy

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    Not 2 dishes, but a bigger oval with 5 LNB's is what seems to be in D*'s future...
     
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