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DIRECTV Announces Second Quarter 2012 Results

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by DodgerKing, Aug 2, 2012.

  1. Aug 2, 2012 #41 of 101
    Alan Gordon

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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I remember reading that the satcos (maybe even DirecTV in particular, I don't remember?) picked up A LOT of customers in the New Orleans (and some of the surrounding) area due to the mess that the cablecos systems were after Katrina.

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  2. Aug 2, 2012 #42 of 101
    thelucky1

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    I agree with you 100%!
     
  3. Aug 2, 2012 #43 of 101
    thelucky1

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    Yeah the good ole days Alan! :)
     
  4. Aug 2, 2012 #44 of 101
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    Nah guys, they lost subs purposely. No, really, for the higher revenue, anNat. SatRacer even spins it this way and so should everyone else at DBStalk. Keep in line talkers.
     
  5. Aug 2, 2012 #45 of 101
    Alan Gordon

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    I hate it when this kind of talk comes around...


    Don't get me wrong, I think DirecTV most likely has a good deal of customers that they'd be better off without, and I fully respect their tighter credit policies, and focusing more on their higher paying customers (DUH!!). What I have an issue with is this line: "This is a long-run play, with DirecTV positioning itself as a premium service as television choices grow in number and complexity. "

    I've been with DirecTV since... almost the beginning. I remember when the monthly cost of DirecTV every month got me two to three times the amount of channels those I knew with cable had, with PQ that looked like the best DVD quality whereas they'd have PQ equal to what some people might experience with a pair of rabbit ears (of what I received via a large outdoor antenna) for around the same price.

    Yeah, I'm aware that DirecTV has added channels, and I realize that technology has improved (HD, DVR, WHDVR), but to a lesser extent, so has the technology on cable, and Dish Network has entered the scene. Each route has their pluses and minuses, but I look back fondly at DirecTV from then.

    A co-worker of mine earlier this year asked her co-workers about which satellite company was best as she was thinking of dumping cable. As I was sharing time with a Dish Network subscriber, I found myself not knowing what to say. I prefer DirecTV, but it works out better for me personally, whereas most people around here have Dish Network, and prefer it. I tried to think of something, but I really couldn't. Things being what they are, she'd probably save money with Dish Network versus DirecTV. In the end, the only advice I could offer was to check out what both services offered for what prices, and that I'd be there to answer any questions she may have.

    Now DirecTV wants to position itself as a premium service? What does that mean?! Right now, I don't really see them being any better than some of the choices out there. If they're just talking about promoting their higher packages and better credit requirements only, I think the wording is weird. To me, a premium service is a service that is so good, it requires a premium, and I don't see anything differentiate DirecTV enough to require it at this time.


    Criticize away... :D

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  6. Aug 2, 2012 #46 of 101
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    Davenlr

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    Sports. They are going to charge a premium price for the privilege of watching sports, and movie channels...at the expense of basics. That would be my take on it.

    My boss tried to get DirecTv last month. He has Dish SD, and Dish wanted to much money to upgrade him to HD in the Living Room. He called DirecTv, and they wouldnt even give him an option to subscribe, because he did not have a good enough credit score. I even offered to sell him one of my boxes, and they wouldnt create an account on an owned box. So, now he has Comcast too (at my suggestion) for $39/mo year 1, $59/mo year 2, In HD, and NO CONTRACT.

    That is what DirecTv considers premium. Sounds pretty elitist to me. Hope it works out for them.
     
  8. Aug 2, 2012 #48 of 101
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    Lol yeah the Directv spin "doesn't stop here"! Mike White is a joke!
     
  9. Aug 2, 2012 #49 of 101
    thelucky1

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    Yeah Alan this Directv spin only makes sense to those that drink the Directv Kool-aid!

    Company direction shift Ok, losing paying customers on purpose! haha haha that's a good one!
     
  10. Aug 2, 2012 #50 of 101
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    Sounds good to me. DirecTV is just digging their own grave here. :lol:

    They're really going to be in a panic after alienating all these customers when fiber optics rollout efforts start getting serious.
     
  11. Aug 2, 2012 #51 of 101
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    Not necessarily. I still have DirecTV. FIOS isn't expanding and it will take quite a while I think for Google to expand past KC. Sonic.Net is regional as is my telco which isn't doing much FTTP any more.
     
  12. Aug 2, 2012 #52 of 101
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    And maybe requiring a basic TV package in addition to their internet service, if they keep losing TV subscribers.

    D* got FS-SD after the new contract was signed last year. I would think FS-NO would be included in that as well, and being that its a part time channel, I think they will get this one.

    I think they have a good chance of getting this one too since the channel is majority owned by the two teams (same with CSN-Chicago).

    I think you got them all.
     
  13. Aug 3, 2012 #53 of 101
    Alan Gordon

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    Uhh... not exactly what I was getting at. :rolleyes:


    I believe some of it's unintentional (there's always unintentional churn), and I'm sure the economy has forced others out, but I have no problems believing that DirecTV may be tightening their belt when it comes to retention for certain customers... thereby ticking them off.

    No... my comments were directly related to my confusion as to the direction DirecTV is headed. Over the years, I've felt that DirecTV was either a premium product at bargain prices (90s), a mainstream product at average prices (much of the 2000s), a premium product at a decent price (post D10), and now, a decent competitor. At this point in time, I don't really consider DirecTV a premium product. Are they going to do something to make me feel it is again, or are they just going to market it as one?

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  14. Aug 3, 2012 #54 of 101
    Alan Gordon

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    • TVG Network
    • Universal Sports


    Does anyone know if Fox College Sports is still coming this year?


    HBCU Network may already be released. They kept going back and forth on the date, so I have no idea.



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  15. Aug 3, 2012 #55 of 101
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    The new sports channel for new Orleans though is a strait rebranding of a channel with the same things on it as before, (although evidently more games for the hornets) and DIRECTV has never carried it before either, so who knows if not picking that up would really have any affect on DIRECTV.
     
  16. Aug 3, 2012 #56 of 101
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    I completely believe that they expected this and planned their budgets for promotions etc for this to happen. I just think its stupid to ever do business that way, and they are fools to plan that way. I have never seen apple plan anything based on losing ground somehow. Nor any other premium type of company. Drive your product that you make money with through innovation and advancement, the rest will follow. And screw the share holders that wanted $1 more a share. They can kiss my $$$

    Being happy with where your at and going for the starts quo and becoming a cash cow, I can respect that. Manipulating to make a couple extra bucks is just wrong though. And unfortunately, I don't believe any public traded company falls into the first category anymore.
     
  17. Aug 3, 2012 #57 of 101
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    When does the current contract run out with DTV? Expected to be similar to the Viacom dispute?
     
  18. Aug 3, 2012 #58 of 101
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    I know I'm paying a premium price. Directv is $25 more a month than my local cable co for the same setup. I don't mind paying that premium, but with that, I expect better equipment (check), more HD (check), almost all HD that is available (no check). (Oh, and I also expect HRTV, but I won't hold my breath).

    I still see them as a premium provider. If Mike White says the customer base they are going after is a premium customer base, that is all well and good, but give me a high end product with all the bells and whistles (ie HD channels).

    They are close, but not quite there IMO.
     
  19. Aug 3, 2012 #59 of 101
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    People have so many options when it comes to viewing sports in 2012. You would have to think this strategy could only go so far.. Personally I have movie channels on Fios(cheaper for me) and my sports on D*. I can imagine a future where my house will no longer have Direct TV simply because it will be cheaper to have Fios as a one stop shop for phone, Internet and TV.. Fios is still the only place to get CSN Philadelphia for me as well. I love Direct TV but my personal premium choice in the future will probably be Fios(or Google :) ).
     
  20. Aug 3, 2012 #60 of 101
    harsh

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    Absolutely wrong. You said that DISH lost more customers in the quarter and they didn't. Trying to stretch it out to as many quarters as is necessary to make it true isn't going to fly.
     

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