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DIRECTV Buys ReplayTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Kheldar, Dec 13, 2007.

What do you think about this?

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  2. Why?

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  3. Not Cool!

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  4. Who's ReplayTV?

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  1. Dec 13, 2007 #61 of 211
    Doug Brott

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    I don't disagree with your statement, but I believe even DIRECTV would see that the FTC would not be happy with a monopolistic situation .. The technology would be licensed and all would be well in the world.
     
  2. Dec 13, 2007 #62 of 211
    Doug Brott

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    I with you on this Steve .. takes the legal part out of a lot of things that DIRECTV has going on now. The DIRECTV software dev team already has a handle on how to make a DVR. With the Patents in hand, certain things can be implemented without fear or retribution.

    In all honesty, I hope that the Replay Dev Team get job offers with DIRECTV as there is no guarantee that that will happen (regardless of the quality of their work).
     
  3. Dec 13, 2007 #63 of 211
    Earl Bonovich

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    I stand by what I said then... and the purchase of ReplayTV... doesn't change that fact either.

    The HR20 project has been nothing remotely close to a "nightmare" for DirecTV. And I don't expect major changes to happen either.

    And yes... I do think you where throwing wet slop against a wall to see what sticks... and frankly... none of it has.

    But hey... keep throwing up vague references... you might hit something.
     
  4. Dec 13, 2007 #64 of 211
    Doug Brott

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    Agreed .. while it would be nice, pragmatically .. ain't gonna happen.
     
  5. Dec 13, 2007 #65 of 211
    bjamin82

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    I agree... it is cool, but hopefully whatever changes DirecTv is going to make to its DVR now that they own this software will not require equipment changes.
     
  6. Dec 13, 2007 #66 of 211
    Doug Brott

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    Earl, csgo may indeed have a buddy that works with Replay TV and knew of these negotiations long ago. Where I suspect a mistake was made was that buddy assuming that ReplayTV would re-write the DIRECTV DVR line in a different form.

    I agree with you completely that the HR20 development is not a nightmare. I do think there were long hard nights last year with the HR20, but we are so far removed from that era that there is no way that the current design path will be changed.

    The thing we can all hope for are cool new features .. will these be born out of the ReplayTV acquisition? Maybe, but this purchase is to compliment the direction DIRECTV is going, not change it.
     
  7. Dec 13, 2007 #67 of 211
    lguvenoz

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    Isn't this the way elections work??? Keep taking guesses until you stir something up :)

    Seriously though I agree with you Earl. The HR20 was not really a nightmare for DirecTV. Not by any measure. It might have resulted in increased CSR calls, some minor loss of customers, and some extra hours for developers (who are probably salaried :( so it didn't cost them anything), but that is by no means a nightmare.

    Nightmares are class action suits, people's TVs blowing up because of the unit, the box catching on fire, something major. Not people's recordings not working.
     
  8. Dec 13, 2007 #68 of 211
    mrshermanoaks

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    As someone who's been involved with ReplayTV from the beginning (I was a longtime beta tester and still run planetreplay.com and replayfaqs.com), I welcome our new DirecTV overlords. I think most of the important points have been hit here with regard to ReplayTV's value to DirecTV:

    1. Patents - you can never have too many patents.
    2. Multi-room viewing - Replay's first implementation of this in like 2000-2001 has remained one of the best and most reliable in a DVR.
    3. Software DVR - Possibly to accompany a PC-card based DirecTV receiver.
    4. Internet-based scheduling - The MyReplayTV.com service allowed users to program their DVR from a centralized server.
    5. Remote Scheduling - ReplayTVs would recognize other ReplayTVs on the local network and allow situations like "no tuners available" to be handled by offering to record a show on another DVR. "Sorry, this unit is busy during that time. Record on Bedroom DVR instead?"
    6. Remote Scheduling II - The first remote scheduling feature allowed 3rd party developers to use the same networking functions and allow localized remote scheduling from PC software.
    7. Internet Video Send - OK, so ReplayTV (then under Sonicblue) got sued for this one. It was a feature that let you send a show to ReplayTV box belonging to another owner. It was supposed to be for "friends and family", but in the internet age that's a little nebulous (hi to all my friends on poopli.com). So it meant that I didn't necessarily have to subscribe to HBO to watch THe Sopranos, I just had to know someone who did and could send it to me. I know this is a little far-fetched, but think about it: DirecTV has a serious advantage here. They know what programming I'm subscribed to. Just like with the downloadable content they're now offering that is limited by my subscription - they could actually control what programs I send to who. They could actually be in the position of offering a peer-to-peer sharing service that is Hollywood-friendly.
    8. ReplayTV had no 50-series limit - ok, cheap shot. It never had a "to-do" list either.
     
  9. Dec 13, 2007 #69 of 211
    lguvenoz

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    Awesome post. I even appreciated the little cheap shot :)

    How do you see the software piece relating to Media Center?? Has there been much comparison to date?? Just curious...
     
  10. Dec 13, 2007 #70 of 211
    Canis Lupus

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    Remember Apple's Newton? What an abysmal product. However, Apple secured a ton of patents from that development and turned many of them into... the iPhone.

    So I agree patents may be the key here, and it could be another way for D* to close the door/widen the gap on TiVo.

    It would be great though if any left over engineers/developers could help D* finish off MRV. :)
     
  11. Dec 13, 2007 #71 of 211
    jash

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    i like my hr20 and i don't miss my tivo at all. that took a few weeks but it seems to be the case for most folks i know. as for the patent disputes, i worked for a software company that had a similar situation. they sued each other and eventually agreed to stop but to pay each other a nominal fee if they ever got bought out. 1 million. so i bet tivo just got some extra cash from directv.
     
  12. Dec 13, 2007 #72 of 211
    houskamp

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    Hate to say it but I highly doubt you will see a PC card for Directv ever.. (I kinda hope I'm wrong) I don't think anyone is willing to take the risk of allowing programing unencripted in anything but a poprietary box..
     
  13. Dec 13, 2007 #73 of 211
    Draconis

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    Do not forget the "do-not-sue deal" DIRECTV has with TiVo in exchange for extending the support on the TiVo units until 2010.

    http://www.businessweek.com/technol...nology+index+page_more+of+today's+top+stories

    They made that announcement at the 2006 CES. Microsoft also said that they were working on a "blade" for the Xbox 360 that would turn it into a extension of the DIRECTV HD DVR.

    http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10013/DIRECTV-and-Microsoft-Team-Up/

    http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/17/directv-blade-to-bring-hd-tv-and-flicks-to-xbox-360-dashboard/
     
  14. Dec 13, 2007 #74 of 211
    Radio Enginerd

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    Interesting... Maybe you're on to something.
     
  15. Dec 13, 2007 #75 of 211
    bhelton71

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    I thought that too - the current product of ReplayTV happens to be a USB tuner with some software for $ 99.00
     
  16. Dec 13, 2007 #76 of 211
    tiger2005

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    Did ReplayTV have DLB? That is really the only thing I care about at this point. Although, the MR master scheduler sounds pretty cool, but that would more than likely require me to get a bunch of new receivers.
     
  17. Dec 13, 2007 #77 of 211
    Radio Enginerd

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    It's certainly not the single thing that drove the purchase but definitely an added value. Makes sense they'd utilize it as a possible solution. I guess time will tell whether we're on to something... or not. :)
     
  18. Dec 13, 2007 #78 of 211
    itguy05

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    I wouldn't call it abysmal. It was way ahead of its time and led way to the most successful (and best, IMHO) PDA, the Palm Pilot....
     
  19. Dec 13, 2007 #79 of 211
    mrshermanoaks

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    ReplayTV PC Edition isn't much of a competitor to the broadness of Media Center, but it seemed really tuned (forgive the pun) to the needs of someone who just wanted to record television.

    Here are some of the writeups I did on the ReplayTV PC Edition when it first came out with lots of screenshots:

    ReplayTV PC Edition - The Setup
    ReplayTV PC Edition - Operation
     
  20. Dec 13, 2007 #80 of 211
    Canis Lupus

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    You're right. Maybe abysmal was too strong a word. And yes - it led to great developments, including today's iPhone. So even though it was a financial failure at the time, it contributed to future products, and the patents created at that time paid off later, which was really my point. :)

     
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