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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q1 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Dec 26, 2010.

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  1. Mar 2, 2011 #2321 of 4070
    cebbigh

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    I have Choice now. I refuse to go to Choice Extra or Choice Ultimate until AMCHD and TCMHD are offered in any package. Personally, I think there should be greater price separation between the packages to make it more compelling to D to add new channels and customers to get the channels they want. As is is now there is nothing in Ultimate that compels me to upgrade.

    Premier doesn't appeal to me because I can get my movies cheaper and more conveniently elsewhere.
     
  2. Mar 2, 2011 #2322 of 4070
    sigma1914

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    It's here say? :lol: Ok.

    I'm not pressuring anyone. The man's track record speaks for itself.
     
  3. Mar 2, 2011 #2323 of 4070
    damondlt

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    So let it !
     
  4. Mar 2, 2011 #2324 of 4070
    Mike Bertelson

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    Lets stop discussing people and discuss the topic

    :backtotop

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  5. Mar 2, 2011 #2325 of 4070
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    So basically they should only add more HD channels when enough people agree it's worth the add? Or just when you think it's worth it? I'm glad they didn't follow your logic when they started down the HD path. I still don't get why some get so upset by this. Show me some proof that this add is preventing them from adding the HD channel you want and then it will mean something. Otherwise it's just "urinating" as you so eloquently put it on those who wanted the channel. Because it really didn't effect you did it? So why let yourself get so worked up over it? Isn't it a good thing that they're adding more HD? Maybe it will even bring in more high paying customers who can subsidize the channels more people want?

    When you think about it, the only people affected by this add were those who have 3D televisions and they were effected in a positive way. I don't see how anyone was set back by this.
     
  6. Mar 2, 2011 #2326 of 4070
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    Besides the fact that it isn't near 80%.... I will offer the following translation:

    "If I don't pay for them, they don't count as added HD".

    There are many people however, who do, and love the channels they got.

    Also: 2010 saw the launch of 7 HD channels which would be considered "Basic". (6 in English, 1 in Spanish).

    Hey, it's better then nothing. If they add another 7 in 2011, you won't hear me complain. As long as it contains BBC America HD. :D
     
  7. Mar 2, 2011 #2327 of 4070
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    DirecTV is resting on its laurels, deliberately refraining from playing catchup with core basics it has in SD that should have been updated months, and perhaps even a year, ago with a high-definition feed: AMC HD, IFC HD, We HD, Fuse HD, TCM HD, truTV HD, BBCAM HD, E! HD, Style HD, QVC HD, HSN HD, HInt'l HD, LMN HD, REELZ HD, OVAT HD, LOGO HD, CENTRC HD, OUTCH HD, SPRTSM HD.

    It is half-owner of GSN HD and, yet, that too hasn't brought that in (despite going high def last September).

    There's no looking at Dish Network and other viable/heady cable competitors — who do carry between 15 and 20 core basics in HD (only made available from DirecTV in SD) — and excuse DirecTV let alone say it is not "standing still." You can talk about technology; but technology isn't programming content. 3D isn't a hot product. HD is. DirecTV doing 3D is probably a cheaper option for the company (with programming). And, yes, I know DirecTV is betting on 3D as a thing of the future. But DirecTV has been out of touch, has been wasting time, and it has led me to question its sense of direction — and what this company really thinks of its customers.

    As for the grayish parts of your comment, one is personal and it doesn't need a comment from me … but the channels from May 2010 does. I wanted a couple of them (HMC HD and MSNBC HD) very much; but, admittedly, I (and a relative to whom I referred service to DirecTV) had the following reaction: "Thanks. But is that all there is?!"

    The posters who have used that beating-a-dead-horse emoticon have been wise. It's tiresome addressing and re-addressing that fact (and there is no debate here, no matter who is in love with DirecTV): there is no excuse for DirecTV not to carry in HD (when much of its competition does) the likes of AMC, TCM, truTV, BBC, E!, Style, HInt'l, and LMN. That's not even a long listing. I shortened it, on purpose, to highlight some of the real basics of the core basics (in DirecTV's channel ranges of the 200s and 300s). It points to just how incompetent and inexcusable this is for DirecTV. Its subscribers should be pissed! (I sure as hell am.)
     
  8. Mar 2, 2011 #2328 of 4070
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    Really? You're pissed? It's only TV...
     
  9. Mar 2, 2011 #2329 of 4070
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    Why does everyone here make such a big deal of missing basics? What about missing premiums like Cinemax? If you count west coast feeds there's 12 HD channels of it in existence and we only have 2 of them. If you're a huge movie lover like me that's something to get mad about IMO.
     
  10. Mar 2, 2011 #2330 of 4070
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    Because subscribers want/watch these channels, and DirecTV has deliberately failed to add those "basics" (placed in its channel ranges of the 200s and 300s; choice couple, nationally, in the 600s with SPRTSM HD and OUTCH HD), while Dish Network has shot ahead specifically with those (plus, even as you mention, MAX multiscreens).

    The latest: OWN HD.

    Congratulations, Dish Network subscribers!
     
  11. Mar 2, 2011 #2331 of 4070
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    I'm with ya, bro. Same argument I made re HBO and BBCA. I voted BBCA #1 myself in the survey, but the truth is if you do the math the likliehood is that adding another Cinemax pleases more D* subscribers than adding the #1 survey request (BBCA) does.
     
  12. Mar 2, 2011 #2332 of 4070
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    SR said we're getting more "soon" though (i.e. in 90 days or less).
     
  13. Mar 2, 2011 #2333 of 4070
    Davenlr

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    Unless I am totally crazy, I really dont see the point in 20 HBOs or 10 Cinemax channels... They buy a movie, and show it on HBO. Its gonna be on HBO2,3,4 and 5 too. Any blockbuster is going to be on the main channel first. The exception might be Encore, where the break the movies up into Genres...

    So, could one of you movie buffs explain why we need 10 HBO channels? And I am asking seriously, because I really do not know. I would just think getting a channel in HD that we currently have no source of their programming in HD for, would be more popular than getting a channel in HD that shows the same thing as another channel we already get in HD.
     
  14. Mar 2, 2011 #2334 of 4070
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    He also made a comment about "quarters", which is the context we're in on this thread, that lead me to believe it is likely to be after March 31st.

    Which won't break my heart in the least, quite frankly.

    If we get to June 30th without significant HD adds, then I might start getting a bit more bitter about the whole thing.
     
  15. Mar 2, 2011 #2335 of 4070
    spartanstew

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    I don't see the point either and whenever I subscribe to HBO, I remove the extra HBO's from the guide and don't even pay attention to them. However, not everyone has a DVR and very few had DVR's when HBO first expanded. It was/is so people have a choice of movies at the time they want to watch. As to why having HBO (et al) in HD before others? Too many factors involved to make an educated guess. I don't care to have all the HBO's in HD, but I'm sure some do, so I'm just happy for them (and any new HD, even though all my channels were in HD long, long ago).
     
  16. Mar 2, 2011 #2336 of 4070
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    Yeah, I don't agree. The different channels have different priorities. Hard to say when they pull old stuff out of the vault that you love, love, love. I look forward to that kind of thing. . .
     
  17. Mar 2, 2011 #2337 of 4070
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    He did not say they would be basic channels however. My guess is that we may get a few additional HBO/Cinemax channels.
     
  18. Mar 2, 2011 #2338 of 4070
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    You're completely wrong, that isn't how it works at all. All premiums are broken up the channels into genres, (and BTW they don't simply use numbers above 2, that ended 10 years ago):

    HBO's:

    * HBO: The flagship service; it airs popular feature films, first-run films, boxing events and sports specials, original movies, original series, comedy specials and documentaries; also typically debuts new movies on Saturday nights.
    * HBO 2: Secondary channel, which features more movies, series, specials and original movies. HBO 2 airs R-rated films during the day, unlike the main HBO channel.
    * HBO Comedy: Features less-serious films and series, as well as rebroadcasts of HBO original comedy series and specials; airs R-rated films during the day, but only broadcasts adult comedy specials at night.
    * HBO Family: Features movies and series aimed at a younger audience, as well as films for the whole family; airs series aimed at preschoolers during the morning hours; with specials and G, PG and PG-13 rated films starting at or after 12:30 p.m. ET/PT.
    * HBO Latino: A Spanish-language version of HBO for Spanish-speaking audiences, simulcasting much of the same programming seen on the main channel. This channel airs HBO productions, including original series dubbed in Spanish, as well as Hollywood blockbusters and Spanish-language films. Also airs boxing events, including the original boxing series Boxeo De Oro.
    * HBO Signature: Features quality films, HBO original series and specials geared primarily at women, the channel's target audience.
    * HBO Zone: This channel airs movies and HBO original programming aimed at the 18- to 35-year-old demographic, as well as broadcasting adult-oriented programming at night. As such, HBO Zone, alone amongst the HBO channels, offers softcore pornographic films, similar to those seen on Cinemax's Max After Dark block.

    Cinemax's

    * Cinemax (usually branded on-air as Max): The main "flagship" feed; blockbuster movies, first-run films, favorite movies and erotica; premieres new movies on Saturday nights at 10 p.m. ET as part of "See It Saturday", and broadcasts a featured movie Sunday through Fridays at 10 p.m. ET.
    * MoreMax: a secondary channel with similar content to Cinemax, also includes foreign films, indie flicks and arthouse releases; broadcasts a featured movie every night at 9 p.m. ET.
    * ActionMax: Action movies including blockbusters, westerns, war pictures and martial arts films; features "Heroes at 8", a featured action movie nightly at 8 p.m. ET.
    * ThrillerMax: Mystery, suspense, horror and thriller movies; features "When the Clock Strikes 10", a different featured mystery, suspense or thriller, nightly at 10 p.m. ET.
    * @Max: Targeted to the 18-34 demographic, features contemporary films, movies with an attitude exemplified and films with unique ideas; features a choice movie every night at 11 p.m. ET.
    * OuterMax: Sci-fi, horror and fantasy films; features "Graveyard Shift", a featured sci-fi or horror movie every night at 12 a.m. ET.
    * Wmax: Targeted at women, features dramas, mysteries and classic romance pictures; broadcasts a featured movie appealing to women every night at 10 p.m. ET.
    * 5StarMax: Modern classics, featuring award-winning films and timeless treasures; broadcasts a featured classic every night at 9 p.m. ET.

    Starz's

    * Starz: The flagship channel; features hit movies and first-run films from Hollywood blockbusters to indie flicks and international pictures, along with some original series.
    * Starz Cinema: The destination for movies with enduring themes, films outside the mainstream cinema, and arthouse films.
    * Starz Comedy: Lighthearted flicks and movies that make you laugh.
    * Starz Edge: Films for the new generation, aimed at the 18 to 34-year-old demographic.
    * Starz In Black: Dedicated to showcasing the best in black cinema and urban entertainment; including first-run hits, classical films, Pan-African films and original productions.
    * Starz Kids & Family: Features commercial-free family movies from action and adventure movies to comedies to family treasures, along with some animated and imported live-action children's series; includes "Camp Block", a weekday afternoon block of imported live-action series aimed at pre-teens.

    Showtime's

    * Showtime (SHO): The flagship channel; blockbuster movies, first-run films, original series, specials, mixed martial arts events and championship boxing.
    * Showtime 2, referred on-air as SHO2 (SHO2): Secondary channel; offers more movies, original series and specials.
    * Showcase (SHO3): Similar to Showtime Two, features movies, first-run films and original pictures.
    * Showtime Beyond (SHOB): The channel features a mix of science fiction, fantasy and horror films as well as Showtime original sci-fi series.
    * Showtime Extreme (SHOX): Action and adventure, thrillers, gangster and martial arts. Airs over 60 movies each month and a Sunday double feature spotlighting a different action star.
    * Showtime Family Zone (SHOF): Family-oriented programming, including movies and specials aimed at a younger audience. All movies are G, PG, or PG-13 rated and no R-rated movies or TV-MA rated programming airs on Showtime Family Zone.
    * Showtime Next (SHON): Movies geared towards adults 18–24; features over 50 films each month, original pictures, short films and animated shorts.
    * Showtime Women (SHOW): Targeted to women; airs films, Showtime original series and specials geared primarily at women.
     
  19. Mar 2, 2011 #2339 of 4070
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    And do you agree or disagree that would please more D* subscribers than would adding BBCA HD (the #1 survey request)? Just curious if anyone other than me is willing to own that fact. . .
     
  20. Mar 2, 2011 #2340 of 4070
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    Georule, that would be impossible to answer without knowing how many people subscribe to HBO. We can pretty much extrapolate the % of requests for BBCA to the number of D* subscibers using Sixto's poll, but without knowing how many people watch the HBO/Cinemax channel (and how many of those that would watch extra ones) makes it hard to answer.
     
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