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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q1 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Dec 26, 2010.

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  1. Jeremy W

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    Probably a better guess. I don't think we'll see TruTV next month. Although it would be odd to get one Turner channel without the other two that we're also missing.
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

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    If that is indeed the list....and it could be....just think of how far the whining decibel level will drop. :D:lol:
     
  3. sigma1914

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    Did you get the CSR's name? :lol:
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

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    Oh that's just sooooooo wrong....... :D:lol:
     
  5. Coca Cola Kid

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    I bet the O means Outdoor Channel. A CSR told me we're getting that back in 2009.
     
  6. Hutchinshouse

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    +1
     
  7. Hutchinshouse

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    Don't underestimate our whining power. :lol:
     
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    :lol:
     
  9. RobertE

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    Nah, it will just change it's tone. :p
     
  10. SPACEMAKER

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    IF we were to get those channels I'd expect the whining to get even worse. Only because the minority tends to be the loudest.
     
  11. Coca Cola Kid

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    Under 12 hours til Mini-Festvus (but who's counting?)
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    All true of course. :D

    But I anticipate we'll get some WOO HOO's next month as well.
     
  13. SPACEMAKER

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    I wasn't counting but I am now. I love waking up to more HD. (did I really just say that? Maybe it's time to do some life assessment :lol:)
     
  14. Davenlr

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    I'm not. But happy for you guys
     
  15. camo

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    I hope so..........
     
  16. tonyd79

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    And RAO? Not another religious channel!!!!!





    (Okay, did the Superman fans get it at least?)
     
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    :nono2:
     
  18. cypherx

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    PA - Berks...
    O could mean Outdoor channel, but OWN carries more weight I think.

    I know they normally put 5 HD's to a transponder, but you could get away with those 6 on one transponder.

    BBCAmerica HD - this can be sent in pretty close to normal MPEG4 bitrate
    TruTV HD - They overcompress this at the source (as seen during March Madness and on other providers), and most programming is not in full HD anyway.
    Nat Geo Wild HD - Nat Geo is 720p because it's owned by Fox. Doesn't need as high of a bitrate (720p compresses better vs 1080i).
    Reelz Channel HD - this could be compressed a little bit more than usual, since they don't have a ton of HD programming, and it's a niche channel anyway.
    AMC HD - this can be sent in pretty close to normal MPEG4 bitrate
    OWN HD - this could potentially be compressed slightly under normal bitrate since it's a niche channel.
     
  19. sigma1914

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    Bandwidth is not an issue.
    Why would you even consider more compression for any reason? This isn't cable, DirecTV takes a little pride in PQ. IMO, it shouldn't matter if 5 or 5 million people watch a channel; no channel should be forced to be compressed more.
     
  20. cypherx

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    PA - Berks...
    Because didn't they say there's only like 33 or 34 slots free?

    There's more than 33 HD channels missing for one, plus what about space reserved for transponder issues, engineering moves & shuffles, testing or emergency space? It's going to be quite awhile until D14 is operational.

    Plus 720p compresses better, might as well use efficient multi-pass real time new generation encoding hardware. Cable had a tough time with 3 1080i channels per QAM (38.8mbps / 3 = 12.93mbps peak per feed at mpeg2). When they started experimenting with 720p and 2 1080i, or 2 720p and 1 1080i on a QAM, they were able to improve a lot of the artifacting that was occurring during fast motion scenes.

    Plus a lot of the feeds coming in from the source (say TruTV), comes in already overcompressed, so why inefficiently expand that bitrate and fill the remaining bits with null packets? It's just wasteful. Picture quality pride, sure I'm right there with you. But some service groups (channels on a transponder) can be efficiently picked to maximize their investment. These sattelites out there in space costs so much money. Every bit per second costs hundreds of dollars. Might as well be spectral efficient in the process. And heck, these channels are in testing for at least a week before pushing live. If a certain multiplex doesn't work, or needs fine tuning... it can be done before made live.

    While I wouldn't advocate touching some quality sensitive feeds, like ESPN... some niche channels would not be noticed, especially with their 'upconverted' content on some of this stuff. Plus some channels by nature never fill their entire bitrate quota. Stuff with little or low motion, such as talking heads (news, cspan's, shopping) can be bundled together with animation content (solid, flat colors) more so than a bunch of action movie and sports content in the same package.
     
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