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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q1 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Dec 26, 2010.

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  1. Jan 18, 2011 #461 of 4070
    Ira Lacher

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    Nice to be in an area where you have a choice. We poor unfortunates in Des Moines can't sympathize with your embarrassment of riches.

    We have a choice of DirecTV and DISH. No Time Warner, Comcast, Brighthouse, FIOS or U-Verse, nor will we ever have them. What we have is Mediacom, which offers 16 HD channels and no sports packages (no MLBEI, NBA League Pass, etc.). Programming costs for Digital tier with DVR and 3 additional outlets exceed what I'm paying for comparable service with DirecTV (Choice Ultimate). So you might want to kwitcherbitchin. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Jan 18, 2011 #462 of 4070
    georule

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    Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense. I'll have to remember that when I see folks complaining about D* adding PPV HD slots. . . its also increasing their special/temporary events peak HD capacity.
     
  3. Jan 18, 2011 #463 of 4070
    Carl Spock

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    Exactly. If I don't have DirecTV or Dish, my choices are the same Mediacom package or HD from the phone company, assuming I don't want multiple HD recievers. They have enough bandwidth of each subscriber to get one HD DVR and that's it. Everything else in the house has to be SD. That's laughable.

    I certainly have my problems with DirecTV's basic HD offerings right now but the only other option is to get Dish, too, and that seems a bit much. My best bet is to sit and wait...and stew.
     
  4. Jan 18, 2011 #464 of 4070
    seern

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    I have to agree on the sit and stew. In Richmond, VA we have Comcast, Verizon and Dish and D*. Right now D* is the best option since Verizon's DVR is still the small one and they don't have many more hd channels then D*. Dish's problems are well documented including poor dvr's and higher cost. Comcast we will just say I am avoiding, even though they have re-branded as Xfinity, whatever that is.
     
  5. Jan 18, 2011 #465 of 4070
    Stuart Sweet

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    When you rebrand with a madeup name, it often means your old name has bad associations with the customer. I suspect in this case, millions of dollars went into creating a brand name that wasn't so easy to put the word "crap" into ;)
     
  6. Jan 18, 2011 #466 of 4070
    Sixto

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    Yes, whenever there's a need for part-time capacity, usually weeknights and weekends, a Cinema HD channel is taken off-line (to slot 1700) and replaced by the part-time channel.

    This is the same for special events, such as the Australian Open right now, where there's 7 channels for Tennis. Also, the Mix channels usually take 2 channels of bandwidth.

    The peak needed is usually early in the NFL season on a Sunday afternoon when there's no NFL bye, and there's other sports concurrently.

    Also, the sports packages don't always need to take significant bandwidth from Cinema HD, if the game is already on an RSN that's full-time, the channel just gets re-mapped to the sports package.

    From tracking this stuff for the past few years, the first 20-25 Cinema HD is certainly needed to handle the peak periods.

    Whenever there's significant data, it's posted in this thread (link below) and I try to keep every update from date-to-date for historical reasons:
    And , as you probably know, there's also still some significant bandwidth available on D12, so the Cinema HD is certainly not affecting the ability to grow HD (for now).
     
  7. Jan 18, 2011 #467 of 4070
    Daniel

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    Well, that would be fitting. I watched the first 30 minutes of it in the wrong aspect ration when it first came out in a theater. The stupid projectionist put in the wrong lens and then when out for a smoke.
     
  8. Jan 18, 2011 #468 of 4070
    georule

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    And those aren't charged as premiums/ppv, so some "basic" goodness there. And with one thing and another, quite often over the year. I watch the golf "majors" that way, myself.

    Yeah, that was my point upstream. The full-time RSNs give D* a lot of sports package HD "for free" (i.e. no additional bandwidth usage). Often *both* teams feeds in HD are there, so you can even pick your preferred announcer team.

    I do know about D12. . .in fact that was in the back of my mind when I asked the question --I was wondering if you'd tell me that some significant portion of those 34 "Available/Open" was being borrowed regularly for this kind of thing. Glad to hear that's not the case.
     
  9. Jan 18, 2011 #469 of 4070
    ShawnL25

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    From the now closed thread regarding missing HD channels

    sigma1914 :
    Over 100??? Come on. I dare you to name 100 or even 50-75 HD channels that are lacking.

    Challenge accepted…
    1 ActionMAX HD
    2 BBC America HD
    3 Centric HD
    4 DIY HD
    5 E! Entertainment Television HD
    6 EPIX (East) HD
    7 EPIX 2 HD
    8 Fashion TV HD
    9 G4 HD
    10 HBO Comedy HD
    11 HBO Family HD
    12 HBO Latino HD
    13 HBO Signature HD
    14 History International HD
    15 HLN HD
    16 IndiePlex HD
    17 Investigation Discovery HD
    18 Lifetime Movie Network HD
    19 LOGO HD
    20 MAVTV HD
    21 Nat Geo Wild HD
    22 RetroPlex HD
    23 SHortsHD
    24 Sportsman Channel HD
    25 Style HD
    26 truTV HD
    27 Turner Classic Movies HD
    28 World Fishing Network HD
    29 5StarMAX HD
    30 Cooking Channel HD
    31 AMC HD
    32 MoreMax HD
    33 @Max HD
    34 ThrillerMax HD
    35 OuterMax HD
    36 WMax HD
    37 HBO Comedy West
    38 Fear Net HD
    39 IFC HD
    40 Outdoor Channel HD
    41 HBO2 HD West
    42 Fuse HD
    43 HUB HD
    44 OWN HD
    45 QVC HD
    46 HSN HD
    47 WE HD
    48 GMC HD
    49 Oxygen HD
    50 Fox Movie Channel HD
    51 Wedding Central
    52 TV One
    53 TV Guide Channel
    54 Sprout
    55 Sundance Channel
    56 TBN
    57 PixL HD
    58 ReelzChannel
    59 RFD-TV
    60 FUNimation Channel
    61 GSN
    62 NASA TV
    63 Africa Channel

    Plus west coast feeds, the .tv channels, full time RSN's, and the random channels no one has ever heard of... If DirecTV wanted to launch 100 new HD channels tomorrow I don’t think they would have a hard time finding enough channels. Price is a different story.
     
  10. Jan 18, 2011 #470 of 4070
    Jaspear

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    I have no problem borrowing unused capacity to provide continuity of programming, assuming they have the additional ancillary equipment needed for each temporary use. Why upset customers paying for premium content when you could easily keep from doing so?
     
  11. Jan 18, 2011 #471 of 4070
    Tubaman-Z

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    Heh - I live in a rural area where the choices are D*, Dish, or OTA (which really isn't so bad - with a deep fringe rooftop antenna, pre-amp, and my TV's tuner I can get about 18 channels/sub-channels. Of course with my HR20's tuner and guide data I get 5 OTA channels). Our area is too sparsely populated for cable to be cost effective.
     
  12. Jan 18, 2011 #472 of 4070
    Mike Bertelson

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    Forget about the .tv channels. They are FiOS only and aren't available on anyother provider.

    Seriously though. If it were that easy don't you think they would have done it already?

    If it were just as simple as turning them on, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. The question is, what’s the hold up? It can’t be anything other than bandwidth and contracts.

    Mike
     
  13. Jan 18, 2011 #473 of 4070
    sigma1914

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    Couple corrections...

    1 ActionMAX HD
    2 BBC America HD
    3 Centric HD
    4 DIY HD
    5 E! Entertainment Television HD
    6 EPIX (East) HD
    7 EPIX 2 HD
    8 Fashion TV HD
    9 G4 HD
    10 HBO Comedy HD
    11 HBO Family HD
    12 HBO Latino HD
    13 HBO Signature HD
    14 History International HD
    15 HLN HD
    16 IndiePlex HD
    17 Investigation Discovery HD
    18 Lifetime Movie Network HD
    19 LOGO HD
    20 MAVTV HD
    21 Nat Geo Wild HD
    22 RetroPlex HD
    23 SHortsHD
    24 Sportsman Channel HD
    25 Style HD
    26 truTV HD
    27 Turner Classic Movies HD
    28 World Fishing Network HD
    29 5StarMAX HD
    30 Cooking Channel HD
    31 AMC HD
    32 MoreMax HD
    33 @Max HD
    34 ThrillerMax HD
    35 OuterMax HD
    36 WMax HD

    37 DIY HD Listed at #4, too.
    38 Fear Net HD
    39 IFC HD
    40 Outdoor Channel HD

    41 BBC America HD You listed at #2, too.
    42 Fuse HD
    43 HUB HD
    44 OWN HD
    45 QVC HD
    46 HSN HD
    47 WE HD

    48 GMC HD Doesn't air in HD on any provider.
    49 Oxygen HD
    50 Fox Movie Channel HD
    51 Wedding Central
    52 TV One

    53 TV Guide Channel - Doesn't air in HD on any provider. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Guide_Network
    54 Sprout
    55 Sundance Channel
    56 TBN
    57 PixL HD
    58 ReelzChannel
    59 RFD-TV
    60 FUNimation Channel
    61 GSN
    62 NASA TV
    63 Africa Channel
     
  14. Jan 18, 2011 #474 of 4070
    KyL416

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    What full time RSN's that are already carried in SD are missing (Since if/when they make deals with the missing RSNs the chances are they will carry them in HD too unless the RSN refuses and uses the loophole)? It has to be RSN's that are actually uplinked fulltime. Last time I checked, the FSN Ohio HD feeds are still using Rainbow's old uplink that shows a test pattern whenever a game isn't on and won't be fulltime until they finally switch to using Fox's uplink for the HD feeds.

    FSN Indiana, FSN Kansas City, FSN Houston, FSN Carolinas, FSN Oklahoma City, FSN Tennessee and FSN Utah also don't count as a potential 24/7 since they are subregions. What happens at the cable company's headend is that they have a reciever set to the main feed and when an individual event for the local sub region is scheduled their reciever switches to one of Fox's standby feeds for the subregion via cuetones set by Fox's master control in Houston. This happens seamlessly for cable subscribers, however DirecTV is national so they have to give dedicated channels for the part time subregion feeds.
     
  15. Jan 18, 2011 #475 of 4070
    cypherx

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    sigma,
    GMC is in HD on Comcast channel 887 here. But the other ones, yeah good eye.
     
  16. Jan 18, 2011 #476 of 4070
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    Cheater. ;)
     
  17. Jan 18, 2011 #477 of 4070
    Mike Bertelson

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    Does anyone know if the Sundance Channel is full time HD? All I can find is that is does HD for Sundance on demand.

    Mike
     
  18. Jan 18, 2011 #478 of 4070
    KyL416

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    Rainbow's tech specs don't show an HD feed for Sundance. Outside of VOD, they don't make any mention of HD in their marketing/programming materials
     
  19. Jan 18, 2011 #479 of 4070
    georule

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    But it is better when you don't need to do it, because if more full-time HD channels is what you want as a customer (I think there would be general agreement on that in this particular thread!) the more genuinely unused (rather than part-time used) capacity there is, the more full-time HD channels can be added.
     
  20. Jan 18, 2011 #480 of 4070
    georule

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    DIY HD is on that list twice as well.
     
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