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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.
When people pay good, hard earned money for a service they have every right to complain.
Some people will complain no matter what is the point. If D* added 99 HD channels tomorrow, they'd complain it wasn't an even hundred.
I wouldn't understand a person who would be satisfied by the addition of a channel they don't care about unless they already had all the channels they care about.
If the grass is greener on the other side, and they still complain, then they don't. If they have reasons to continue staying with the service they are currently on, then you better believe it.
Some people... sure. I think some might over inflate the numbers that that might be though. For instance, take a look at how much the quarterly threads slowed down after AMC was launched in HD.
I'm personally waiting on 19 channels to be offered in HD! :eek2:
That being said... I'd be pretty much satisfied with 8 particular ones. 2 of them I don't expect to see until D14 (if then), and honestly, if I got 4 particular ones, I think I'd be pretty content until hopefully D14 brought them.
I don't feel this is a situation where people are just wanting more, more, more. I think is a situation where people are just anxious to see the programming they want to watch in HD. Once they get that, I think they'll consider any additional programming offered to be a good thing regardless of what or how many additions it is.
I can't speak for everyone, but if DirecTV added 25 HD channels next week, and they were all the channels I cared about and then some, I certainly wouldn't complain that it wasn't 30.
So they add one basic HD (E!) and get rid of several (HBO) unless you want to buy new hardware.
I wouldn't call an HDMI cable "hardware", more like an accessory. They're less than 10 bucks too, so I don't see what the big deal is.
You have the movie studios, not DirecTV to thank for HDCP.
It's not the cable. My HDPVR accepts component not HDMI. I've heard that HBO over component is limited to 540p. I may cancel HBO and get my game of thrones via other methods now (which would have the opposite of the intended effect).
Thank-you for contributing.
From what I read at Engadget is HDCP is in place but it's up to the provider to implement it.
There are several problems with your logic:
HBO is not basic, it is a premium channel.
It was HBO, and not DirecTV that implimented HDCP. The only option DirecTV had was to show HBO in HD with HDCP or drop HBO entirely.
The addition of E! and HBO turning on HDCP are not related at all.
What's with the HDCP / HBO thing? Cant you use component? IF not, what about the HDMI to Component adapter at Monoprice? On the HDMI side it negotiates HDCP so effectively gets your HD output to component.
I'm glad for the last few additions. TruTV, E!, AMC, etc.. Sure there's a few more I wish we would get - I hope they come soon.
About the grass being greener on the other side remark (alan)... Its sort of patchy green with brown spots in it over here. My other option has a ton of great HD channels (Including BBC America HD, DIY HD, etc..). However they only have the main screen of each premium channel in HD. The DVR software sucks, there's no multiroom, and HD channels are on a different number (Ch 500+). I hate how cable operates like that. There's no hiding of SD Duplicates or mapping them to the original channel number.
When D14 is active, I'll be out of contract. I hope they will let me do a free upgrade to a dish that can see D14 in addition to the other birds. I hope my SWM8 can still handle it. Heck maybe it will just be an LNB swap and the slimline can stay. Who knows.
Don't believe everything you read. It's a requirement to implement it, not a choice. Different providers have different time periods to implement it, but all have to implement it based on the Premium. Or another way to say it, everyone distributing HBO has to use HDCP at some point, the implementation date may vary based on contracts, etc, but everyone has to.
Yep, it is a contract requirement. I believe Dish already had to implement it with HBO much earlier. I remember the complaints.
Switching gears a bit: I remember reading somewhere that both E! and TruTv are the 6th HD channel on the same transponder. Assuming that Directv cracked the code, and can now have 6 HDs per transponder, how much space is available for future additions?
The problem with verbal (or internet-written) complaints is that they aren't really heard. Sure, there might be some DirecTV employees that say... "well, there is this DBSTalk forum, and they over there really want BBC America", but in the end this isn't a scientific poll that would give them accurate data to use for a decision on which channels to add in HD, we're really just an incredibly small part of their customer base, and we are mostly geeks interested in the technology of it all.
So in essence.... we're really just complaining to each other here. Now that is everyone's given right, but when you pay hard earned money for a service, it might be more effective if you direct the real complaints to the ones taking that money from you. And even there, I have complained to a CR on several occasions that I would like to see BBC America added. Now that is data they can use in their decisions, as they can just pull that from their systems....but that is about all you CAN do.
The only real way of complaining to a company that is providing you service, is complaining with you wallet, in other words, you'll take your dimes elsewhere. This is not going to help in the short run, but if customers start leaving because a certain service is not offered, this is a great incentive for a company to start offering it.
Basic HD though.... simply isn't enough to really leave a provider for. Who would want to go through THAT trouble? And so we just keep complaining.....
Just realize the complaining here isn't going to help DirecTV make any decisions, it will just make YOU feel better if you let it out.
I don't think it is that simple.... the transponder in question might have one or more stations that broadcast in 720p, which takes less bandwidth than 1080i, the stations in question may have a lower bandwidth feed TO DirecTV, and thus don't need more than what is given, there maybe a RSN on there that is only HD part time, (when there is a game on) cutting down on bandwidth needs.... etc. I don't think it is a cut-and-dry number game.
But then.... I am not an expert, so I could be totally wrong.
Yeah... my only other choice for a provider (aside from cutting the cord) is Dish Network. While it's true that I find Dish Network's HD channel lineup more to my liking than DirecTV, I'd cut the cord before I'd join Dish Network.
That's the whole point of this thread though... it's to anticipate and to air your grievances.
Do you really think I go around in real life complaining about the channels DirecTV doesn't air in HD?!
You don't? How strange...I thought you were like the rest of us. Guess not. :nono:
I think there is the occasional instance where I've said something about BBCA or The CW, but overall, I really don't...
I understand that. My post was poorly worded
Bull. Hbo would never stand for the loss of revenue that a provider like Directv brings them if they were dropped. It would hurt hbo more than directv.
I didn't mean to imply that they were. They just happened at the same time.