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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. May 25, 2012 #881 of 1602
    Coca Cola Kid

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    That's such an elitist statement. Just because a channel isn't watched by "a lot" of people doesn't mean it has nothing to offer. I thought popularity contests ended after high school. :nono:
     
  2. May 26, 2012 #882 of 1602
    studechip

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    There isn't anything elitist about his statement at all. It's a statement of fact that there aren't any sd channels left that are in high demand. That doesn't make them less desirable to those who want them, or demean those that do. I want to see DIY and H2 in hd, but there simply aren't many people in the over all scheme of things that agree with me.
     
  3. May 26, 2012 #883 of 1602
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    Yeah..... I have used the "bottom of the barrel" phrase myself, but I think we have sort of overused it. As someone who has lived in Europe, has watched a lot of BBC and other English networks, BBC America is on the top of the barrel for me. And with other channels it is the same: It is in the eye of the beholder.

    I haven't watched 20 minutes of TruTV in HD after it went live, and probably not even 20 minutes before that. The programming on the channel simply does not interest me, I just don't care about "dumbest criminal" or "tow war" type shows. But that isn't to say that others value that programming a lot more, and to them TruTV ranks higher then whatever the stupid Brits make and show on BBC America.

    It is all in the eye of the beholder.

    The only pet peeve I really have with all of this is that the local cable provider here (TWC) is required by law to announce channels changes 30 days ahead of schedule, while DBS providers are not held to that requirement. (This law was implemented when cable was the only option, and the law was specifically worded towards "cable") As such, I always knew what was going to come as the cable provider announced changes sometimes 2 months in advance, and in public. There was no need for secrecy. If they could not make a target date, they would simply announce a new target date, although this rarely happened. (once if I can remember correctly).

    The need for secrecy has also been discussed plenty of times..... but I am still disappointed that it has to be such a secret. It seems easier to find out when a secret military payload is going to be launched into space then a HD channel on DirecTV.
     
  4. May 26, 2012 #884 of 1602
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    I think you need to meet the Nielsens.
     
  5. May 26, 2012 #885 of 1602
    studechip

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    Were they popular in high school? :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  6. May 26, 2012 #886 of 1602
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    you are right. The "bottom of the barrel" statement is just another current excuse for not adding them now. What is Directv going to call these "bottom of the barrel" channels when they finally add them in the future?
     
  7. May 26, 2012 #887 of 1602
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    Hey it looks like we get to keep AMC. Dish and AMC seem to be suing each other and Dish has stated they were going to drop them when their contract is up.
     
  8. May 26, 2012 #888 of 1602
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    Be careful what you wish for. The stated reasoning behind the AMC/Dish dispute is that AMC wants a very big increase because of the 5 or 6 shows that they do that are so popular. Assuming that is so, if the Dish/AMC dispute doesn't get a reasonable settlement, then D* can start looking in the mail for that new big rate increase that they want.
     
  9. May 26, 2012 #889 of 1602
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    We will see. It is not inconceivable that AMC does NOT get its big bucks and Dish does NOT add them back. This goes way beyond just AMC for Dish.

    As for DirecTV, I would imagine the contract is fairly recent as AMC HD was not added so long ago. Those things do not happen without contract talks.

    There is little to no history that shows that disputes between one carrier (Dish or DirecTV) has in impact on talks with the other.
     
  10. May 26, 2012 #890 of 1602
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    Well, my guess is that those who make the decisions may have the same line of thought as some of my friends who repeatedly complain that there may be 200 Channels, but there isn't much on outside the Sports and News networks and the rest seem to find their way online or to DVD.

    To answer your question, I don't think the "bottom of the barrel" term is descriptive of the channels that remain to be added in HD, but rather the channels that D* felt would not be as valuable compared to other channels D* would like to have within the remaining HD channel space.

    The only thing to really anticipate before the next HD launch is a slew of new sports networks coming online.
     
  11. May 26, 2012 #891 of 1602
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    Yeah I agree with you. Nice post.
     
  12. May 26, 2012 #892 of 1602
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    I'm kind of in a quandry. I've said I won't be watching Doctor Who's next season in SD, especially D*'s versions of SD. But then there is the issue with AMC with Dish.

    I can save substantial money by switching to E*, and I could stand it if AMC was only in SD on E*, but to lose it altogether would not be pleasant.

    This makes the decision a little tougher and takes more time with a spreadsheet. IF D* gets BBCA in HD before the next Doctor Who starts, then I will most likely stick around. Otherwise it is a bit up in the air.

    For the record, I don't mind if they add all kinds of sports things in HD, or any other channels some want as long as BBCA-HD is first in line! :)
     
  13. May 26, 2012 #893 of 1602
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    Just because there is no public history of the disputes/negotiations doesn't mean that what happen with one carrier doesn't have an effect with others. IOW, do you honestly believe that D* would pay more than E* for the same channel on the same terms? And you can bet your bippy that each of the sat providers pretty much knows what the other is paying.

    At the least, what happens with one will have some effect on what happens with negotiations with some others.
     
  14. May 26, 2012 #894 of 1602
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    With your unhappyness with DIRECTV hardware why not just switch back to Dish and then use an online service to watch whatever show(s) you want that aren't being carried?
     
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    Well the only time I ever watch ESPN is when my local teams are on it, so less than 24 hours a year probably. And I never watch TNT, USA, TLC, or Discovery, since I hate butchered movies and mindless reality shows.

    Anyways, give me HLN, H2, NGW and ID please, D*.
     
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    If the Nielsens jumped off a cliff, would you do it too? :nono:
     
  17. May 26, 2012 #897 of 1602
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    Sadly, if those are your two providers of choice, I'd say Netflix may be your only solution to Hi Definition doctor who right now. :(
     
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    Don't hold your breath. There hasn't been D* carriage deals reported or announced for any of them.
     
  19. May 26, 2012 #899 of 1602
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    You need to keep up with my posting if you're going to make statements like that. I have said very recently that the speed issues are gone and like that. The remote response issue is still there but not as bad as it once was. And the video/audio glitches should be taken care of in some upcoming NR, it isn't like they are a big problem for long periods of time.

    So yeah, comparatively speaking I believe E* has better hardware, but it isn't a huge difference between the two.

    All that said, it may very well be that I switch back to Dish. August is the 1st month that it makes sense from an economic sense. I'll be watching the AMC crapfest with Dish closely.

    And I did think about an online service. For BBCA shows that makes sense as there are really only a couple I care about enough to pay extra to get. For AMC, there are too many shows that I would want to see, wouldn't make sense at all.

    Actually I'd be happiest if I could keep both services to fill in the gaps, but unfortunately there is no financially practical way since there is so much overlap. And using some really stripped down sub on one or the other doesn't make sense, 'cause they don't have channels in them that I'm generally worried about.
     
  20. May 26, 2012 #900 of 1602
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    Yeah, that is an option. But for Doctor Who, the current season isn't available on Netflix until the DVD comes out, but I could get it with iTunes. And DVD quality is good enough for me, much better than D*'s SD by far. Makes the buying of it not so bad. Then there is Primeval if it actually comes back.

    AMC is actually more expensive to get than is BBCA stuff. I would want The Killing, Hell on Wheels and Walking Dead for sure and maybe something else if it comes along. Potentially an issue.

    I'll be pondering and playing the spreadsheet game for the rest of the summer between golf and playing the organ. It is great to be retired!! :)
     
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