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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.
I believe they used to call that a hit-and-run post.
Well, since there are still shows on the over the air networks that are not shown in Hi Definition I'd say we have a ways to go. I think all the primetime shows are, except for one or two here and there sometimes, but for the rest of the day, plenty are still not in hd. Now if you had simply said broadcast in digital, well we are already there. And there is no mandate to go all Hi Definition ever, as the atsc format includes several sd formats, and with sub channels, I don't expect all programing to ever go all Hi Definition until we move to the next standard after atsc.
Back when I was a young kid, a full ten years after color I did not know anyone with a color TV. Late 60s is when I started to see them, 69 for us and I lived in a middle to upper class area. Back to topic.
That's syndicated programming, not network provided. Almost always pre-recorded by the locals before put over air. Sometimes there are reasons the local might air a SD feed instead of a HD feed, but not often if they're already HD.
Again, there are two separate issues here. . . how much non-HD programming is still being produced, and how much HD programming is being provided and yet SD is what is being delivered to the home. It's the latter that is the proper focus of this thread, for the most part, IMHO.
We'll see what happens with OTA broadcast sub-channels. . . I think by hook or by crook, and probably with bags full of money involved, that bandwidth is going to end up with the mobile providers in the mid-range future.
Bars I don't think are to much a concern with regard for getting rid of sd, a lot of them have already moved to Hi Definition in my area that are sports driven, and suspect that more bars will move to that before any push away from sd. I also don't think they will every stop offering a basic Hi Definition receiver, which is all bars could use if they put the boxes at the tvs, or wire it with lots of cables, but...
However, I see rvu as being helpful there to someday, possibly.
Personally, I would not be surprised to see a eight tuner DVR someday, it would fit in nicely with the eight channels they have on a swim leg.... That's enough for most hotel lobbies or non bar driven restaurants that I have been to.
I expect that at some point we will see rvu clients that are tiny, think the size of a deca, and maybe even able to be powered off of a USB port (from the tv maybe). Then your back to only needing a coax to the tvs, and you don't have to rewire anything but maybe the dish to the server.
And as bars replace tvs they may go with rvu tvs if they are available in time, knowing how much it would simplify the process.
And who says they won't let you have multiple rvu servers. That still cuts costs over multiple separate boxes with tuners in each.
Now in the future..... I wouldn't be surprised if someday they launched a 16 or 32 tuner rvu server, non DVR unit mainly for bars and restaurants, etc. I could even see it being designed like a large swim switch without the need to actually plug into any tv. Shoot, how long before the electronics become small enough that they can build a rvu tuner server into a swim lnb? Yeah, I don't see why not, and then we are really talking simplifying the installation and lowering costs.
Are all the reality shows now, even in the summer in Hi Definition on all the networks? I haven't looked in a while, don't really care about them.
some places only have Composite cable that the old COAX may need to be rerun and or have the old splitters changed out to run that can do rvu / swim
Yeah, me neither. I like some of the talent shows, which are the original "reality programming" --older than TV itself, as they started on radio-- but not stuff like Survivor, etc.
I do know that _Days of Our Lives_ has gone HD (the wife is an NBC affiliate techie), and Soap Operas were amongst the last to go color last round of major technology shift. Even _Meet the Press_ (another category of late mover last round) has been HD since 2010.
I'll ask her if NBC is providing any SD-only content for main channel use (other than Universal Sports, which is a sub-channel on some NBC affiliates) --I don't think so, but she'll be more likely to know.
The wife says that she thinks that Chris Matthews show on NBC on Sundays is SD-only, but she doesn't work weekends much (30 yr veteran). However, this weekend she is, so I've primed her to pay attention to some of the more esoteric NBC programming.
Bars don't worry about that. Big Sports bars have professional/commercial installations with commercial grade equipment. Smaller bars often have individual tuners for each TV.
They don't need RVU, they don't need DVR. As a matter of fact, I am actually pretty sure that there are some restrictions as to what a bar is allowed to DVR and show later. I know with the World Cup 2010, there were some 4:30 AM games here in California. We went and watched them live, but there were bars that recorded them on a DVR, and then showed them at 7:00 AM. (Bars in California are not allowed to serve alcohol between 02:00 AM and 07:00 AM) - But I would imagine that some of the main sports that broadcast live, might actually frown upon a bar DVR-ing one game while showing another, and then playing that game right after..... but I don't know about the legalities there.
Either way, the need for a DVR is low in sports bars. They just need to be able to tune 30+ TV's to 10+ channels, all in HD.
I happen to know that the NBC affiliate in my hometown went on the air on February 14, 1955, with the capability of passing along network color broadcasts, but didn't have the equipment to originate color programming until about 10 years later.
I thought of that earlier this week when I was in Oneonta, New York, watching the ABC and NBC affiliates out of Binghamton -- which can pass along network HD broadcasts, but don't have the equipment to originate HD programming. (For example, it was very easy to tell which were network commercials and which were local commercials. )
That's not true and I'm pretty sure you know it. Until they hit the wall with bandwidth, DIRECTV often claimed to be the leader in HD. When they lost their edge, Derek Chang proclaimed that they were no longer competing in the HD horserace.
At one point DIRECTV had a link on their website to an industry website that counted HD channels as proof that they were the HD leader. Not long after that, they were surpassed and not long after that, the link disappeared.
The whole HD thing was separate and apart from their sports programming boasts (although many argued that HD RSNs did or didn't count).
The link disappeared (www.WhereIsHD.com) because it is not publicly accessible anymore.
As georule stated, there's a difference between syndicated programming and network programming. I cannot speak for the program that georule mentioned, but I'm not aware of ANY network programming that's not available in HD on the Top 5 networks (CBS, ABC, FOX, NBC, and The CW).
As for syndicated programming, a LOT of it is available in HD, but many stations have not upgraded to the equipment necessary to show it in HD. For instance, my cousin was in the audience of "Live With Kelly" last December. I recorded that episode on my local CBS affiliate, as well as the ABC DNS feeds out of NY and L.A., and while the NY and L.A. feeds were in HD, my local CBS affiliate offered it in blurry looking SD.
As I stated in a previous post, my local FOX affiliate only broadcasts network programming in HD, so that's two hours a night during weekdays! My NBC affiliate does a little better, but it still has a considerable amount of SD programming on it. Thankfully, that will change considerably soon as they've recently begun upgrading their equipment, and have started producing HD promos, and is in the process of upgrading their equipment to offer HD newscasts.
Like georule, I enjoy the talent ones ("American Idol", "The X-Factor", "The Voice", "Duets", "Dancing With The Stars", "So You Think You Can Dance", etc), and I can state that yeah, all the reality shows (even the ones I don't like) are HD now.
~Alan<~~~~~~~~~~~~Who made his national HD debut on "American Idol" this year....
The only shows I can think of that are not in HD are Let's Make A Deal and Big Brother.
That's Butte, MT Not Butt, MT
and what are the asterisks for?:engel08:
You are correct harsh!
No, he ain't. DirecTV is still the leader and they still claim it. They never claimed to be the BASIC leader, but overall leader.
Harsh spins, spins, spins.
I actually questioned whether "Let's Make A Deal" was in HD or not, but I completely forgot that "Big Brother" even existed... and certainly didn't think of it being SD still...
Strange that LMAD would be SD.