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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. Alan Gordon

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    Some logos bother me... if I'm going to bother watching something on The CW in SD, I'll forgo the channel included in my locals for one of the DNS feeds as the logo on the station included in the locals makes you feel like 25% of the screen is taken up. :rolleyes:

    Others are getting ridiculous as well... though thankfully not quite as bad.

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  2. Alan Gordon

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    Oh, I meant to mention this yesterday...

    I mentioned that iTunes had BBC programming on sale, but for those who care, I wanted to add that iTunes has the first episodes of "Merlin", "The Hour", "Being Human", "Luther", "Sherlock", and the upcoming (premiering next weekend on BBCA) "Twenty Twelve" for free... and all available in HD. :D

    ~Alan
     
  3. seern

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    This is an anticipation thread about new channels, but I have given up hope that D* is going to launch anything other then sports for most of the remainder of this year. I am committed to D* and won't be switching. I will just enjoy what we have now and if something else comes along that is on my wish list then great, otherwise, really am not waiting for anything any more.
     
  4. oldcrooner

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    All I can say is simply "For shame, Directv!" There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON, considering their corporate earnings, that they cannot carry the HD versions of ALL channels they have in their lineup who have HD available. I know the apologists will scream otherwise but I firmly believe that to be fact. How about paying the fat cats on top a little less this year and start signing some contracts with those channels that your competition has had signed for a long time? You claim to be the "leader", prove it!
     
  5. APB101

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    I know the feeling. But I am not certain if it's been nailed down here exactly how many channel slots are available for additions of HD on DirecTV.
     
  6. georule

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    We have a large DVD/Blu-ray collection of TV and movies, and don't see any conflict with that and having Premier. But then, we also like to support the artists who provide us with entertainment.
     
  7. thelucky1

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    With the exception of the number available slots, I agree with you 100%! Fill the available slots with good basic HD channels! Yes I know some new sports channels will take a few slots.
     
  8. oldfantom

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    Just to be clear on the subject, how much is a company allowed to make before we say they are making too much? There is no argument from me that executive compensation is excessive. But again, who gets to set the amount?

    But lets take this a little further. If D* said to the providers. I have to get all the HD channels to fill up all my capacity RIGHT NOW. How much do you think the providers would charge? Do you think they would give D* a reasonable rate because they are opening the flood gates? Do you think unreasonable rates are really going to be allowed to impact earnings or exec compensation? Beyond that, if they fill up to capacity and D10 falls out of the sky, what do they do then?

    Aside from the executive comp and the corp earnings, which are fair but way off topic discussions, I feel like these types of posts where the community says that there is a conspiracy to not to add (save money, the CEO does not care, they hate basic, they hate premiums, et) is tilting at windmills. We have limited information to make these types of statements. I don't know what a carriage contract looks like, I have no idea what it takes to turn on a new channel, I don't know how healthy D10 is after the statements made last year, I don't know what the emergency response plans look like? Does anyone on this forum know all that? You may be absolutely correct that this is pure greed. Personally, I usually assign these types of things more to a larger constellation
    of complex factors.

    At the end of this whole post. None of this discounts your position. You want more HD.
     
  9. maartena

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    There isn't enough bandwidth to go around until they launch a new satellite in 2014. Have you thought about that?

    From what some of the tech folks have been able to figure out, DirecTV has about 12 or so spots left for channel additions, perhaps a little more if they shuffle around a little and go to 6 HD per transponder instead of 5. And from what lists I have seen in this topic, there is about 50 HD channels still to go. And until the new satellite launches in 2014, there simply isn't the space.

    And with that, they have to do some very careful planning in the next 2 years, before they have access to a new satellite with lots of bandwidth. They have to keep some reserve for new channel launches, transponder failures, that sort of thing.

    So there is ABSOLUTELY EVERY REASON to not have all channels in HD, because.... well.... they currently simply *CAN'T* do that. They simply don't *HAVE* the satellite space to do it.
     
  10. Davenlr

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    They could always have the PPV movies start every hour instead of every 1/2 hour, and gain lots of bandwidth. 6 channels per transponder, again gains lots of channels. I dont buy the "They can't do it" argument. They seem to always find room for the latest and greatest RSN's.
     
  11. APB101

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    "All Day" access. Curb those redundancies! On Demand.
     
  12. Ira Lacher

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    Face it -- DirecTV is going to do what maximizes their return on investment. They aren't going to do what customers want.
     
  13. Mike Bertelson

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    Isn't what the customers want part of getting a return on their investment? :scratchin

    Ya can't get new customers if you don't have what they want...for that matter it'll be pretty hard to keep the old ones.

    I'm just sayin' :grin:

    Mike
     
  14. studechip

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    True, but as someone that has never ordered a ppv, it seems foolish to have so many available and so often. Obviously Directv thinks otherwise!
     
  15. Mike Bertelson

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    I have no idea what the numbers are but they wouldn't have so many if they weren't producing income. People must be buying PPVs.

    Mike
     
  16. studechip

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    I'm sure. Someone besides me that is!
     
  17. maartena

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    That is not quite how it works. The most important factor is their ROI, yes... but customers that LEAVE are bad for the ROI. If customers start leaving DirecTV because they don't have access to certain channels or content, DirecTV will work to secure that content.

    Problem is, not many people leave for a few missing basic HD channels. It is too much of a hassle. New receivers, new contracts, new channel lineup, the wife that is pissed off that you changed TV service on her ( :D ), having to take time off to make sure the installer does his work right..... in short a much bigger hassle then it is worth.

    People WILL however leave if they can't get their favorite sports team any more. That is a much more compelling, stronger reason to dump one provider and go with another. If customers actually start leaving in droves because of missing channels, DirecTV will probably be persuaded to get those channels to prevent more people leaving. THAT messes with their ROI after all.

    Regarding basic HD.... DirecTV pretty much offers a very similar lineup to other providers. Sure you can get a list of HD channels that other providers have, but there are also channels that DirecTV has and others don't. There are ALWAYS going to be missing channels. Its just not enough reason to switch. And with that, DirecTV can do whatever it wants on basic HD. They can choose to add not a single basic HD channel till their satellite launch in 2014, and they probably only would lose a very, very minimal amount of customers that leave with "basic HD channel missing" as the actual reason.

    And with that..... the ball is in the court of the customer. If Basic HD is REALLY important to you, and you REALLY need the channels listed on the lists in this topic that DirecTV does not carry in HD.... go with Dish Network. If you want Sports and more Premium Movie channels in HD.... you stay with DirecTV.

    For me personally, it is not worth the hassle. I don't find a few missing HD channels THAT important. My personal preference misses 3 channels in HD, being:

    - BBC America
    - H2
    - OWN

    My wife watches OWN all the time. But because the network is financially struggling and faces an uncertain future I don't think we'll see that in HD soon. (Or maybe we will in attempts to save it.)

    In any case, the absence of SatelliteRacer in this thread while he has been commenting in other threads recently, is telling: His previous comment about new HD still stands: more HD will be added this year, some will like it, others will wish for other choices.

    That does not give me any confidence we will see a BASIC type addition any time soon. And with that information, everyone will have to decide for themselves whether it is worth it to switch or not.
     
  18. dpeters11

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    Even if they had BBC America in HD, it would have still been SD quality.
     
  19. georule

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    The 6-per channel thing is clearly our greatest hope for significantly more HD before D14.

    In theory, could be as many as 44. But I think that's a reach in that time frame, and there may be optimum channel mix issues that limit that as well.

    Me, I'd be happy with another 4 basic HD --BBCA, DIY, H2, and TCM. Okay, I'll throw in CW national, for Alan and other sufferers as well.
     
  20. dakeeney

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    less sports and premiums and more basic hd!!
     
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