Like I said, I do not know the real numbers, but I'm betting my concept it sound. Epix obviously wanted more money for their channels as a seperate package than what DirecTV thought they would be worth. Therefore we do not have them. Obviously as DogTV proves, if a channel is willing to let DirecTV price it where it needs to be, DirecTV will be willing to provide it. That's probably why DogTV is $6/month on DirecTV instead of $10/month like it is on Roku etc. DogTV was willing to negotiate on a price that they could both agree on. Viacom/Epix evidently won't, or we would have the channels. I don't think DirecTV has any interest on forcing them into a package like the HD Extra pack. I think they want them as a seperate premium package like HBO/Showtime/Starz/etc, but Viacom/Epix wants too much money for the channels for that to work (in DirecTV's opinion).