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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Mar 17, 2011.

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  1. May 6, 2011 #2081 of 4112
    Hoosier205

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    What does any of this have to do with a town of 1,000? We are talking about not servicing entire states. Any organization is only a national organization when they service residents...you know...nationally. :rolleyes: <redacted>
     
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    KK in CT

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    So you're saying that Comcast does not have national contracts then, since they aren't a national provider to you? Remember, that was the start of this discussion, about Comcast getting their national contracts done when D* hasn't. Not about geography. So if a Comcast customer has their App on their IPad, are you saying that once they cross a state line where Comcast doesn't have the rights to broadcast, that their App will cease to work?? As far as I'm aware, that App works anywhere in the nation. I'm surprised they can do that if they're not a national company and then wouldn't have national contracts....
     
  3. May 6, 2011 #2083 of 4112
    KK in CT

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    Actually we were talking about theses providers having national contracts.
     
  4. May 6, 2011 #2084 of 4112
    KK in CT

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    According to his logic, a company with 50 customers, as long as 1 is in each state, is a national company. Yet a company that has 22 million customers in 39 states would not be a national company...:rolleyes:
     
  5. May 6, 2011 #2085 of 4112
    Jeremy W

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    So then why does DirecTV consider them a national provider?
     
  6. May 6, 2011 #2086 of 4112
    KK in CT

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    So you're saying Comcast does not have national contracts then right? Because that wouldn't make sense since their not a national provider. I would think they would need a national contract with channels to provide their tv service over the internet...:rolleyes:
     
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    QuickDrop

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    Again though, that has little to do with negotiations, i.e "the tango." For cable customers, their local bandwidth restrictions usually has the most to do with their HD selection. Nationally, most of those companies have successfully negotiated contracts for channels, whether they are available locally or not.

    For the longest time, the phrase "it takes two to tango" has been the mantra for why DirecTV hasn't been adding more basic HD channels. Lately, your posts have suggested the reason for lack of basic HD addition is that no company can do everything. Has something changed? Or is it a way of telling us that it time to get super excited/very disappointed for D14's launch.
     
  8. May 6, 2011 #2088 of 4112
    hdtvfan0001

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    I suspect that what we are all seeing - with DirecTV, Dish, and most other content delivery services - is a migration from "popularity-contest" decisions on specific channels to a "business-driven" model.

    Despite reams of bandwidth, in the end....it has to make financial sense to add content.

    The best example I can provide is ESPN.

    The price that ESPN charges to the varies delivery services borders is pretty much obscene in comparison to almost any other HD channel content provider....yet....since the inclusion of this group is seen as a virtual "necessity" to secure subscriber business...they get those high prices paid.

    This is not the case with many other channels.

    Don't get me wrong...there are still a number of "popular" HD channel candidates remaining. But from a bigger picture view - with their addition or omission impact the overall subscriber stability and growth based on the current service offering?

    If you look at the past 2 years of subscriber growth...and purely from a business perspective view...one could make a case that there is no urgent need to add many new HD channels. If it was my company, this would make alot of financial sense. Even the biggest naysayers have to notice they keep growing NET subscriber numbers each quarter.

    That said, the value of the service is the sum of the parts, so I suspect DirecTV already realizes they cannot sit on their laurels either - to maintain solid financial results. For that reason, I still anticipate we will see regular additions (and perhaps a few HD channel dropoffs) over time.
     
  9. May 6, 2011 #2089 of 4112
    Hoosier205

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    There are only two national television service providers. That's it. There simply is no way around that. DirecTV and Dish Network offer services available nationally. Some folks will refuse to acknowledge that, but then they have to save face somehow.
     
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    Jeremy W

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    Why do you refuse to answer my question? Why does DirecTV acknowledge the existence of national cable providers?
     
  11. May 6, 2011 #2091 of 4112
    Hoosier205

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    Prove to us with your own words (difficult, I'm sure) how Comcast actually is a national provider.
     
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    Of course, there are only two providers (D* & E*) who can theoretically provide service for every single person nationally. However, cable companies are national companies who offer service to people in various regions through out the country and those companies also negotiate for channel rights. A successful negotiation is a successful negotiation.

    It's strange you are are getting bent out of shape over the idea that someone might use the word "national" incorrectly, when you show little concern with "regional" in "regional sports network." In fact, as I recall, you started you HD channel count because AVSForum's list didn't include regional sports networks as national channels.
     
  13. May 6, 2011 #2093 of 4112
    KK in CT

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    Besides the fact that DirecTV says they are? How about because they have national contracts? :rolleyes:
     
  14. May 6, 2011 #2094 of 4112
    Hoosier205

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    Yes because, once again, those channels are available nationally.
     
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    Boy, good morning all..! A good hot cup of coffee and this thread are all I need. Happy Friday..!
     
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    Alright, where does DirecTV refer to Comcast as a national provider? Let's see that first. Not that it matters since they are not actually a national provider. That much is just common sense.
     
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    Jeremy W

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    I'd point it out, however
    you already proved it's futile. Of course, why should it matter what DirecTV says? It's not like they're any sort of authority when it comes to national TV providers. Clearly you've got the market cornered on that, and the words of an actual national TV provider (that we both actually agree is a national TV provider!) carry no weight whatsoever.
     
  18. May 6, 2011 #2098 of 4112
    hdtvfan0001

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    This thread seems to be caught in a circular never-ending-story death spiral of irrelevant discussion on the definition and validation of national providers.

    :icon_lame

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  19. May 6, 2011 #2099 of 4112
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    But on topic, any estimates on when the new HBO/MAX HD will hit?
     
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    Jeremy W

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    May 25th at 6am EDT.
     
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