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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. tonyd79

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    I am not familiar with this channel called More. Must be a spinoff since it is more. :)
     
  2. Alan Gordon

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    All providers are facing the issue... not just DirecTV.

    The current cropping practice shouldn't be an issue for SD customers as the picture wouldn't be windowboxed, but shown correctly as letterboxed or full-screen 4:3.

    Too many manufacturers, too much hassle trying to explain to everybody why they would need to change a setting, etc., etc., etc...

    ~Alan
     
  3. banditt76

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    More HD is the parent channel to MORE HD. :p

    Edit: Oops I left out the illegitimate child more HD ;)
     
  4. yosoyellobo

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    It is a spinoff of the channel Less.
     
  5. banditt76

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    I thought Less is More? :confused:
     
  6. tonyd79

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    I meant for directv to use it for SD channels. If their older hardware could do the letterboxing for a widescreen SD presentation, the PQ for the hd boxes would probably be better on those SD channels that they are now window boxing.

    I don't give a fig about other systems.
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    I suspect you mean if all the older hardware could crop the picture to 4:3, but yes, I knew what you meant, and it'd be nice, but my statements in my previous post make it unlikely.

    I didn't say you did. I was commenting on banditt76's post...

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  8. tonyd79

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    Sounds like we just created an ad campaign and brand. Now we just need programming.
     
  9. HoTat2

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    And I think more bandwidth would be needed too;

    Because if you take DIRECTV's typical 4:3 SD resolution of only 480H x 480V pixels or less, and stretch out the 480H from 4:3 to a 16:9 AR, thats a 33% drop in horizontal resolution unless you increase the number of horizontal pixels by the same 33% or to around 642H.

    Thus more SD bandwidth is required for that pixel increase.

    So if you thinK DIRECTV SD channels look soft and blurry now at 4:3, stretching it's already poor resolution out to cover a larger 16:9 image grid will be even worse. :nono2:
     
  10. Alan Gordon

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    OOH!!!

    VERY GOOD POINT...

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  11. tonyd79

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    It would be done only on channels that are currently widow boxed and there is no HD on the system. Not talking about 300 channels. Just a select few. Not all channels are equal even now. It looks like to me, comparing SD from fios and directv that directv gives more bandwidth to channels they feel are important. As they go HD, you can steal some of that bandwidth back since SD televisions hardly care that much.
     
  12. larry55

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    get back on hd anticipation.we not worry about sd . These so call xperts need to start their sd anticipation.
     
  13. banditt76

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    SD issues are part of HD anticipation. Many times the SD issues are what are holding up HD adoption.
     
  14. tonyd79

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    This thread has never stayed completely on topic by design. It is a pretty loose discussion.
     
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    But if an SD program is being broadcast by DIRECTV in 4:3 letterbox, which displays as a window-box image on a 16:9 HD set of course, they're not doing that to the picture are they? That's the content provider sending the feed to DIRECTV that way isn't it?

    So how can DIRECTV create a 16:9 SD image of acceptable PQ from a letter-boxed 4:3 feed being sent to them by the source?
     
  16. Alan Gordon

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    Several channels have stopped uplinking their SD feed to satellites... and DirecTV (and others) are doing what they do to local channels they provide in SD... namely cropping and downconverting to SD.

    ~Alan
     
  17. R0am3r

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    Has Satellite Racer given any new hints since our latest Festivus?
     
  18. Mariah2014

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    No, The only channels that seem very likely right now are ION HD, Pac 12 networks national feed with some type of arrangement regarding the live feeds from the other 6 regional feeds, and finally Univision Deportes (may or may not make the HD feed of that one available). One would think by October the time Warner cable sportsnets from LA would be added as well along with CSN Houston.
     
  19. tonyd79

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    Technically, he gave no hints this last time. He just confirmed what was on Facebook.
     
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    Well, it's not a problem where I live, because our local CW is not a sub-channel to some other network affiliates main channel. I've actually learned quite a lot about the issue because of your posts.

    I 100% agree that DirecTV customers deserve to have CW available to them in HD if at all possible. I just had no idea how much of a cluster-f*** that is across so much of the country, nor (still) how complicated that might be as a negotiating issue. CW, like any OTA network, needs their local affiliates. How much that complicates their ability to negotiate with D* on the issue, I don't know. Maybe considerably.
     
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