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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

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  1. Sep 8, 2012 #3101 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    No.

    The DNS feeds (389-399) are provided via a strict set of rules. The Ion feeds are provided via an agreement between DirecTV and Ion (similar to the rules between DirecTV and TBN, Univision, etc.).

    You should be able to receive Ion West (channel #347... soon to be #306) just fine.

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  2. Sep 8, 2012 #3102 of 3975
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    Cool now I can catch up with the West Coast feeds of any infomercials I miss on ION East..heh heh
     
  3. Sep 8, 2012 #3103 of 3975
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    Speaking of ION...shows you how much I've NEVER watched ch 305 to ask this...

    anyone that has a LIL of ION...yes its in SD..
    Notice how your ION LIL's SD looks alot better than the travesty of SD garbage thats on 305??
     
  4. Sep 8, 2012 #3104 of 3975
    Carl Spock

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    I love this. My thinking was that there is no incentive for Ion Media to have ION HD air before the next Nielsen rating period starts Oct. 25, and Titan25, you show that there is an incentive for Ion to wait to go HD until then. Two different arguments but with the same answer.

    OK, I'm going bold: ION HD will go live right before Oct. 25.

    In fact, I'll give you a conspiracy theory: DirecTV and Ion Media have already settled their differences. They did it long ago. But Ion Media is smart and realizes it makes the most sense for them to turn on Wednesday, October 24.

    Titan25, I won't drag you out on this limb with me but you should know I'll be screaming your name if I should fall.
     
  5. Sep 8, 2012 #3105 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    My money is still on this month.

    I say the same day that Ion West moves to channel #306.

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  6. Sep 8, 2012 #3106 of 3975
    bobnielsen

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    I thought the ION "LIL feeds" were just the east or west feeds remapped to the local channel number. :confused:
     
  7. Sep 8, 2012 #3107 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    Some markets (New York, NY being one of them) actually offer the local feeds in SD.

    Those markets are few, but they do exist.

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    Yes we have a local WPXN-UHF 31....and that D*'s picture in SD (my LIL) looks WAY better than whats on 305...I was watching Psych a bit earlier, and the pic on 305 is letterboxed and shrunk...where as my pic on my LIL isn't..and its a way better looking SD..

    But Alan I must counter...NY 31-1 is defacto in 720p per my rabbit ears..not SD...

    31-2 & 31-3 the other digital alternates are in SD--> Qubo & Ion LIfe are in 480p..so if & when ION arrives in HD i'm cool with whenever...I have methods to watch em..


    who'd of thought I'd be giving props to D* for an SD pic quality..HAH:lol:
     
  9. Sep 8, 2012 #3109 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    I edited my post above. My statement was meant to explain that DirecTV offers SOME Ion affiliates, but in SD only.

    31-2 & 31-3 the other digital alternates are in SD--> Qubo & Ion LIfe are in 480p..so if & when ION arrives in HD i'm cool with whenever...I have methods to watch em..

    Qubo has a lot of programming I grew up on... it's a shame DirecTV doesn't offer a national feed of it! :(

    My local ABC affiliate that DirecTV offers in (MPEG4) SD only at this time, looks VERY good for an SD channel. I'm not going to watch it until DirecTV adds the HD feed, but as far as SD feeds goes, it looks great.

    My local CW affiliate that DirecTV offers in (MPEG4) SD doesn't look so good though. I can't receive it via OTA, so I can't test the theory, but I doubt it's DirecTV's fault. The station probably bitstarves it (it's a -3 sub-channel). It does look better now that my local affiliate is using The CW's HD feed and down-converting, but still not the greatest PQ. Not much different than the compressed mess that is #394 or #395.

    My local IND affiliate that DirecTV offers in (MPEG4) SD, which is what it broadcasts in looks TERRIBLE, but that's the way their channel looks, so it's not DirecTV's fault in the least.

    A lot of factors involved. It's not just DirecTV's fault... sometimes it's the source!

    ~Alan
     
  10. Sep 8, 2012 #3110 of 3975
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    In my mind, the pendulum is starting to swing back the other way on whether it is going to be good news or bad news on IONHD. Missing the originally suggested launch was certainly bad news. . . but that's three weeks ago now, and it is still in Test. I'm liking better the theory there is a plan behind it at this point, rather than the theory of a last minute "dispute" that is still unresolved. Because if it was a dispute, you'd think as it dragged on, one of the things D* would do, as a shot-across-the-bow, and offering of proof that they are willing to walk away, would be to take it down out of Test. Yet they haven't done that.
     
  11. Sep 8, 2012 #3111 of 3975
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    I wonder if it's still in test because they are having some sort of issue figuring out how to insert it also into all the local markets they can...
     
  12. Sep 8, 2012 #3112 of 3975
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    Insert it into local markets? What? No need. It would be carried the same as any other national channel. That it is available in some local markets is inconsequential.
     
  13. Sep 8, 2012 #3113 of 3975
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    Don't they remap ion for some local markets in SD? Thought that was established a while back.
     
  14. Sep 8, 2012 #3114 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    Unlike Hoosier205, I don't find it inconsequential, but the remap shouldn't be too big of an issue... all they would need to do is look at what remaps Ion East is already doing, and apply them to Ion HD East.


    My money is still on it coming the day Ion West moves to #306. That is said to be happening this month, so I'm expecting it this month. We'll see...

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    Carl Spock

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    Great minds think alike. I had this same idea earlier this evening while sitting outside at the Trempealeau Hotel, on the east bank of the Mississippi River at Lock & Dam #6, listening to a local band play Beatles, Neil Young and Grateful Dead covers. I think the fact that ION HD is still in test is pretty strong evidence that the deal has been struck and they are just waiting for the right moment to take the channel live.
     
  16. Sep 9, 2012 #3116 of 3975
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    :confused: Please explain why Ion being available in some local markets is not inconsequential.

    It is meaningless in relation to the topic of Ion being added as a national feed for DirecTV customers. Adding it to their lineup has absolutely nothing to do with inserting it into local markets. They aren't going to launch Ion HD and remap it to a local channel number for every DMA. :rolleyes: It will be at 305 or whatever channel in that range is decided upon if and when it launches.
     
  17. Sep 9, 2012 #3117 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    In a good number of markets... most of them larger markets, DirecTV doesn't carry the local affiliate, they simply remap the national feed on channel #305 or #347 (soon to be #306) to the channel number that the local affiliate uses.

    Yes, DirecTV COULD add Ion East HD to #305 this Wednesday, and not remap it to the East Coast local markets like they do the SD feed, or they could go ahead and add it to #305 and then remap it to those channels next month. However, DirecTV has a tendency to get all their ducks in a row before they launch a channel, so I suspect it will be remapped on those East Coast feeds upon launch.

    I believe that when Ion East HD launches, it will be remapped in those local markets, and I believe that Ion West will be sitting in channel #306.

    ~Alan
     
  18. Sep 9, 2012 #3118 of 3975
    Hoosier205

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    Any inclination to remap Ion HD to a local channel number has absolutely no bearing on it still being in test mode, as was implied earlier. A channel will move out of test mode if and when a deal is made and on the date listed in the agreement. Nothing more, nothing less. It'll show up when it gets a green light.
     
  19. Sep 9, 2012 #3119 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

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    I never stated that it did... :confused:

    ............................................. :confused:

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  20. Sep 9, 2012 #3120 of 3975
    Hoosier205

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    Then why did you jump into that exact conversation? :rolleyes:


     
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