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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.
I'd like that.
But I see it on iPhone.
How many "west coast fans of college football" are there that want to watch the PAC-12 networks on Directv? And how much are YOU willing to pay for the channel? It's not just about what you want, it's about what it'll cost Directv to scratch your itch, and how it'll affect Directv's other customers. If too high a fee is imposed on non-Pac 12 fans, it may drive away other customers or may lower Directv's profits. Right now, it looks like Directv is saying that losing a few Pac-12 fans is less damaging to the company than the cost of signing on the dotted line with the Pac 12.
Many of us are willing to pay, while those east of the Rockies may not see the value in the channel we do. I hate this has turned into an "us vs them" discussion but a deal like Dish with the Nat'l channel plus overflow as needed is fine. Remember many of these games while "late night" in part of the of the country are in prime time for us. And as for paying, I already have and known others that have done the same= added Comcast service for the channel while downgrading our D* service.
I certainly don't disagree with what you are saying. Of course for every channel a given subscriber watches, there are probably 10 that they don't watch but still pay for. It's just that the 1 and 10 are different for everyone. For me, I move every couple years for work. When I made my last move my only sure bet at the time for PAC-12 was cable, so that is what I went with. But my next move will be out of the PAC-12 footprint, and I'll probably be back with Dish or D*. In the last month, I'm spending about 1/3 of my total viewership on the PAC-12 network. If I divided my bill based on viewership, I guess I'd be willing to pay about $20/month for the PAC-12 network. But I think the reality is that I pay $0.80 of my bill to PAC-12, and then probably at least $40 toward channels I don't watch.
Understandable. And I agree. The best deal for all with reasonable pricing is that PAC 12 area gets at least the national channel but probably also the alternates on a package while outside pay for it either on a increased sports pack or a college sports or PAC 12 option.
I'm betting directv's contention point would be the price in region and the PAC 12 is not thrilled that BTN has a different deal with directv.
Part of the pricing would also have to be a pet sub price for the add on rather than a flat fee like Viacom tried to do with Epix. We know directv acts strongly in that case.
Satellite DIRECT Magazine October 2012 Edition (PDF Link)
The channel lineup in this edition is showing DIY HD but NOT ION East HD or Outdoor Channel HD. Also, ION West is still at channel 347 in this issue and not moved to channel 306 as it reported last month. I didn't see anything else but anyone that would like can look over the upcoming issue at the above PDF link.
What he said. D* is already dipping their toes in the water with higher fees for some regions based on RSN fees. What the "give" on the other side is going to have to be, is these regional and multi-regional (but still not truly "national" in appeal) networks are going to have to accept that as they proliferate they can no longer be in "basic" packages, forcing the majority who *don't* want them to pay for them.
It's one thing to do the auto-bundling of niche channels that are in the $.02-.05/month range, but these new sports networks are not that. . .
BTW, Outdoor Channel is not disappearing when I just checked with 'Hide SD duplicates' option checked...
Outdoor Channel (ch. 606) showed up for me on second try. I had to do an "Auto-Select" on Encoding. I re-checked to make certain DIY Network (ch. 230) did not appear. So, DIY was missing and OUTCH reappeared (for me).
DIYHD (greyed out) showing programming as expected beginning 9/19 6AM ET in the D* iPhone App.
Edit: Also see ION East HD with programming beginning at the same time.
IONHD(305)andDIYHD(230) tomorrow 19 sep 6am. IPhone
BTW, the behavior that clued me into Disney Jr last time was that the programming was blank on the webpage version. The channels disappear on the smartphone versions.
I love it when my guesses are right.
With DIY in HD, the only two channels I really want that we do not already have are Universal Sports and Cooking. H2 and WE would be nice to have, but not until after we get Universal Sports.
h2,hln,lmn ,i hope will be up soon.
It wouldn't be the first time that Satellite Direct was incorrect, but if true, I'm surprised that they aren't doing the switch at the same time. That was my prediction... I guess we'll find out if I'm wrong tomorrow.
If only the HD tags on my local ABC affiliate was as good of a hint at things to come.
If you do a search...they also show up in the Android app on my tablet.
HD programming, for example, shows up in the listings on channel 230 (DIY HD).
ION needed to get the HD going nationwide before Oct. 3, because that`s when they actually have a chance at ratings, with a new WWE program.
Carl Spock predicted that !!