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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. Jul 21, 2012 #861 of 3975
    thelucky1

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    Yeah I have it on Netflix. Not impressed, I'm personally not in any hurry for Directv to add it. Way too many other channels I would rather have in HD!
     
  2. Jul 22, 2012 #862 of 3975
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    I saw a trailer of Copper, a new show on BBCA that will premiere 08/19. Looks very interesting but it's a kind of stuff we must see in HD to be appreciated. I want BBCA in HD!
     
  3. Jul 22, 2012 #863 of 3975
    PrinceLH

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    Yes, I am in agreement!
     
  4. Jul 22, 2012 #864 of 3975
    alnielsen

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    Don't hold your breath. One of the points to the agreement was that D* wouldn't have to carry Epix.
     
  5. Jul 22, 2012 #865 of 3975
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    Yep, the problem isn't in space it is on the ground.

    When Dish lit up the EA they only allow MPEG4 equipment to be on it, which means for that arc, even if all you want is SD, the equipment will be HD because there is no MPEG4 Dish equipment that isn't HD.

    For D* they need to start getting all mpeg4 out there, but with only one arc that means they must cover almost all of their SD user base. A very costly and daunting task.
     
  6. Jul 23, 2012 #866 of 3975
    PrinceLH

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    They've been migrating the locals off of 110w(3 transponders) and 119w(12 transponders). Once they've migrated all of those locals into MPEG4, they have all of these transponders to cram as much stuff on, as they can. All they need is to upgrade some of the LNB's, on the Slimline.
     
  7. Jul 23, 2012 #867 of 3975
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    Not exactly true. DTV-4S at 101 reaches end of life in 2016. The rest @ 101 reach end of life by 2020 or so. Given that a satellite is a long term investment that has a long lead time and gets used for 15+ years, D* should be making plans now for what they are going to do about the current MPEG2 SD receivers when the satellites start going off line.

    Of course, right after the SD satellites go off line, DirecTV-10 will be pushing 13 years of age and in queue for a replacement. Maybe sooner given its issues.

    Also, TVs themselves have a finite life. I never had a CRT TV last over 15 years before the flyback transformer died. So, come 2020, I imagine that SD TVs without HDMI will be relatively few an far between.

    Anyhow, the current SD bandwidth is not an option for additional HD. Its either going gentle into that good night and never be heard from again, or it will be replaced with a similar system, if costs justify. Something tells me that in 3 or 4 years, D*-4S goes gently into that good night, and is replaced with a satellite on broadcasting MPEG4 HD channels, reducing the SD offerings for those who don't have MPEG 4 receivers. Also, saying the reason you can't get channel XYZ that a 15-year old satellite was replaced and they now need a new receiver to get it is a pretty easy sale.
     
  8. Jul 23, 2012 #868 of 3975
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    So are we thinking it's going be awhile for any new HD
     
  9. Jul 23, 2012 #869 of 3975
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    Actually, The satelites in space have zero to do with mpeg2 or mpeg4. All of them can broadcast either format, so that will have zero effect on the move to all mpeg4 and Hi Definition so they can cut down to only one feed per channel. And i don't see any way that DIRECTV would ever let go of bandwidth either, so I expect to see replacement satelites for all the bandwidth at 101 and the other key locations they use when satelites come to end of life. And of course' while they have a life expectancy, they can last longer.

    The transition to all mpeg4 is strictly about changing out all the boxes in customers homes, and there are just a lot of those.

    I don't see that transition having any impact on how may Hi Definition channels we have for at least five years or probably closer to eight or more.

    Bu I also don't see that slowing down Hi Definition expansion plans either though. I expect more Hi Definition this year, both RSNs and regular channels, and hopefully a couple last premium ones too.
     
  10. Jul 23, 2012 #870 of 3975
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    Actually for CONUS programming D4S has already long gone into the night having been replaced by D9S. D4S has been a spotbeam only bird for some time now, with its CONUS transponders shut down and serving as backup for D9S.
     
  11. Jul 23, 2012 #871 of 3975
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    110w does not have any locals to migrate, and seems to be preparing to provide aid to DIRECTV's Latin America service to supply additional HD programming to Puerto Rico.

    119w operates on 11 transponder frequencies, 7 CONUS with 1 (Tp. 24) carrying MPEG-4 HD, and 4 spotbeam ones.

    And the present MPEG-2 SD locals supplied to various markets by its 37 spotbeam transponders are not being migrated anywhere right now to my knowledge.
     
  12. Jul 23, 2012 #872 of 3975
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    The MPEG-2 receiver is a hardware thing? Can D* just update the firmware of the receivers so they can support MPEG-4?
     
  13. Jul 23, 2012 #873 of 3975
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    If they could, they would. I don't think some of the older equipment has the horsepower to handle it. MPEG4 takes more CPU cycles and some of that old stuff already moves at a snail's pace as is.
     
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    The satellites have nothing to do with the type of compression and/or encoding used. They are nothing but relay stations. Compression and encoding is done on earth, and the ready-to-receive signal is beamed up to space and relayed. The satellite really doesn't care what kind of MPEG it is.

    D14 is launching in 2014, and D15 will launch probably in the year (or 2) after that, and part of the bandwidth on those satellites will probably be used to replace older satellites.

    The newer satellites are also much larger in terms of capacity, so with those 2 satellites alone they will probably be able to replace 2 older ones AND have plenty of capacity for new HD.

    And I am sure they are already making plans for launches after that.

    Rest assured though: SD ain't going anywhere.
     
  15. Jul 23, 2012 #875 of 3975
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    MPEG-4 requires more CPU power to process, decode. Many older units won't be able to do that. You can't fix everything with a software fix, sometimes you just need better processing power.
     
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    I'm thinking Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes will get added, by DirecTV, when they officially launch.

    I'm not certain about Pac–12 Network, scheduled for launch in just over three weeks.
     
  17. Jul 23, 2012 #877 of 3975
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    Lets hope for more HD fairly soon. Who knows. Would like to see HLN, H2, TV LAND all in HD. Does anyone know if FMC is available in HD?
     
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    Doctor Who is the kind of stuff we must see in HD to be appreciated.
    Top Gear is the kind of stuff we must see in HD to be appreciated.

    That doesn't sway the powers that be @ BBC Worldwide and DirecTV to start carrying it. :D
     
  19. Jul 23, 2012 #879 of 3975
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    I think both will be carried, however I am not yet sure about how they will work out the Pac12 coverage with the local/sub channels.

    Additionally, I expect CSN Houston and Fox Sports NO.
     
  20. Jul 23, 2012 #880 of 3975
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    Put on TCM HD today for the first time.....all they had were 1930 moviles. Who the heck wants to see these in HD ( they were so old that the film stars looked like they were out of the silent movies era and graduated to sound movies). Who needs this channel in HD when they are showing mostly real old movies....
     
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