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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.
Any word on Direct getting the new Pac 12 channel?
Not yet. See this thread on the ongoing discussion on PAC12.
Last word from DirecTV is that "they will have an announcement closer to the beginning of the school year", which would be the 3d week of August.
(Although the channel starts on August 15th, the first live sports isn't shown until week 4 of August).
Yeah but that thread also wakes them up when PREMIUM and SPORTS HD arrive..... they only want to be woken up for BASIC HD.
Have DirecTV and / or Dishnetwork met the mandate of carry one carry all in all the local markets they carry yet?
If not that may be why they are being stingy adding HD channels right now.
does anyone here not like relevant BASIC HD additions??? thats the real question..
Key word "relevant". That might be very personal.
Some people, for instance, might prefer EPIX more then e.g. BBC America. Everyone's definition of what is relevant to THEM, is different.
They are working on it, locals are almost launched weekly as it seems. I got 5 new HD channels just last week. (which made the locals count go from 11 to 16 in the Los Angeles DMA).
Launching locals is also quite different from launching CONUS channels. And CONUS HD is what people want, who cares that Los Angeles got 5 new basic HD, if they didn't get nuthin.
They can hit the snooze button.
I'm thinking what he was trying to get at was maybe getting all these locals launced before the deadline is taking up the time/material/money resources that may have otherwise been dedicated to launching national channels, and maybe that is why we aren't seeing as much movement on the national level right now.
Now, now. You are talking actual resource management. I keep trying to bring that up into the conversation and it gets ignored. Well, I won't ignore yours. It is a pretty decent theory overall and could have been a big reason why TCM was in "test" so long.
It's very possible. Although I would imagine that putting up 1 CONUS feed is just about as much work as putting up 1 Spot Beam feed, and they seem to set those up with 6 or 7 at a time and launching them.
But you are right that it might be a higher priority right now.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe they have all the money and resources that get used to launch channels dedicated to getting the locals up and running that they have to have up by a certain date, and the few CONUS channels that they are ready to launch have been put on the back burner because all of the resources are tied up elsewhere.
For example they could dedicate the time/money/resources to work on launching the Epix Channels now, and make a few more people happy, maybe make some money off them, but by doing so maybe that means they don't get 4 local channels launched by the deadline and they end up getting fines for not having them up that exceed the additional revenue brought in by EPIX. That wouldn't be a good business decision.
Any yeah, maybe TCM was in test so long becuase the people working on launching it got repurposed to launching the locals in LA. Then they might have had some down time waiting on a piece of equipment or something to get the LA locals done so they want back to TCM for a bit and got it launched, then went back to working on the LA channels.
Stuff like that happens all the time, at least it does in my job as a design engineer. I've been working on projects for months and had them to where they were a couple of days away from completion only to be pulled away to work on another project to get it done before a deadline. Then when I hit a point where I was waiting on information from a supplier for the second job I went back and finished the initial project. Could be what happened with TCM.
I'm wondering if that's what's going on with the other channels that have supposedly been up in test mode since April or so.
you get points for reading between the lines!! yes RELEVANT!!
I dont think anyone in this entire site will ever agree that Shorts was a relevant addition..
Epix & BBC yes even DIY even BET when it was added b4 the last bird flew ...very relevant!!!
Shopping Channels ...not very...
I anticipate HDs with Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes and Comcast SportsNet Houston. Add to that Pac-12 Network. All are brand-new launches.
For basics, which are mostly assigned to the channel ranges of the 200s and 300s, I think it's so stifling at DirecTV that I'm not encouraged. Crumbs being sprinkled over the last year (AMC HD, in September 2011; truTV HD, March 2012; E! Entertainment Television HD, April 2012; Turner Classic Movies HD, July 2012) lead me to believe that anything more will be of such narrow scope it would be silly to get very excited. And yet, there's a long list of Missing Basics.
Nationally in HD; Merely SD on DirecTV…
204 Headline News HD
230 DIY Network HD
232 Cooking Channel HD
233 GSN HD
235 Style Network HD
238 Reelz Channel HD
240 Home Shopping Network HD
251 Oxygen HD
253 Lifetime Movie Network HD
260 We TV HD
264 BBC America HD
271 H2 HD
273 TV Guide Network HD
274 Ovation HD
275 QVC HD
279 Oprah Winfrey Network HD
283 Nat Geo Wild HD
285 Investigation Discovery HD
289 Disney Junior HD
294 The Hub HD
295 PBS Kids Sprout HD
301 Nick Jr. HD
304 TV Land HD
313 Jewelry Television HD
328 TV One HD
333 MTV 2 HD
338 gmc HD
339 Fuse HD
345 RFD-TV HD
346 NASA TV HD
350 C-Span HD
351 C-Span 2 HD
353 Bloomberg Television HD
369 Daystar HD
370 EWTN HD
371 The Church Channel HD
372 TBN HD
374 BYU Television HD
404 Galavision HD
559 IFC HD
605 Sportsman Channel HD
606 Outdoor Channel HD
None of this addresses a national Ion Television or the contractual agreement DirecTV has to bring in more screens of Encore. And none of this saying how many, if any, "basics" would come in before the next satellite, D14, gets its launch in 2014. (One may consider it wise to limit the potential number.)
I find DIY extremely unrelevant personally. Still, eye of the beholder. I like Shorts. The problem with it is the lack of guide data. I don't watch it to stick around to find what is on but if I knew what was on, I would record a lot of stuff. There is a ton of Oscar nominated material that is terrific and it is on Shorts but I cannot find it easily. I have downloaded quite a bit from the On Demand stuff.
So, you are wrong, I consider Shorts relevant and DIY not. Thhhhppppt!
As there is a long list of missing anything from any provider. Until HD is so normal that SD is a mere memory, you will not get full HD from anyone.
That list I cut out has a lot of pretty meaningless channels on it for a lot of people. That is not great for those who want them, but that is the way it is. Every provider is struggling with cost and bandwidth and making value judgements on what they provide. Not just DirecTV. Dish has made judgements on RSNs in New York and channels like AMC. Fios is pretty much stuck for bandwidth right now. Comcast is taking DOWN channels as we speak because of bandwidth (and not to add basic, but supposedly to add sports) and is missing a lot of stuff in areas where their systems are old.
Sure there are some providers who have a lot of stuff. But you think they will keep adding? It is unlikely with this economy and with the current technologies.
Do we REALLY have to post these kinds of lists like once a week?
That is YOUR opinion.
First off, there is about 99.9% more DirecTV customers outside of this site. This site only represents a very small portion of customers, and a very specialized kind of customer at that.
Second, I really can't tell what is relevant to who. Shorts HD has some good stuff, I watched it a bit a few weeks ago. I like some of the World stuff, the international shorts they put up.
So why you might find that Shorts HD is not relevant, others might disagree with you. You are not, and I am not either, the decider on what is, and what isn't relevant.
Finally, something can also be relevant to DirecTV. Perhaps a channel like Shorts HD did not have a lot of demand, but it might have been cheap to get, and it boosted the HD channel count by 1.
But then, my opinion might just not be relevant.