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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. Aug 8, 2012 #1681 of 3975
    banditt76

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    1080i has over a million more pixels than 720p. It's just that only half the pixels in 1080i are actually on the screen at one time, but the delay is so small that the human eye cannot perceive it. I hate the fact that most sports are in 720p, I don't care about any tiny bit of so-called motion blur if the picture is going to look like crap in terms of HD quality. I can notice the lower resolution and it looks like crap to me. You can also really tell the difference on tv shows when there are close-ups on faces and such. As far as I'm concerned, anything below 1080i/p is not really HD in my book(yes I know technically it is, but whatever).
     
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    ESPN is one of the best-funded operations around. I can't believe that budget is driving them holding on to 720p.

    Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled thread. . .
     
  3. Aug 8, 2012 #1683 of 3975
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    WOW one of the very few channels on my very short list made the cut much sooner than I would have ever imagined.

    Very pleased to see ION HD being added in time for the upcoming, and sadly final, season of Flashpoint. Just need H2 and MavTV now and I'm all set. :)

    (glad everyone can STFU about BBCA now too)
     
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    They chose it specifically because it is progressive.
     
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    tonyd79

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    Yawn. It is not 720p versus 1080i as much as the quality of the equipment itself and the production and the bandwidth. And your TV. Some TVs do a great job with 1080i. Some with 720p. All except pure native displays convert. So you are all seeing the results of the conversion, not the true signal. I've seen crap and great picture on espn/abc. I've seen crap and great picture on CBS (supposedly the king of 1080i).
     
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    Alan Gordon

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    Does it matter?

    ... and yeah, that's a good way to look at it! ;)

    The CW feeds are DNS plus locals, the Ion feeds are basics plus locals. There is a difference, but yeah, the CW feeds wouldn't cover as many people as Ion even though, as I stated, I believe The CW DNS feeds are available in more local markets than the Ion feeds, the size of the markets are far smaller.

    As for your second paragraph, there are multiple large markets (like NYC) that actually has their local Ion available in SD, so while the population of those larger markets adds up, the actual number of markets is small. However, unlike the CW DNS feeds, EVERYBODY gets Ion from DirecTV (Ion is in the lowest base packages).

    That being said, I think CW HD-DNS feeds should not be discounted as unworthy. They have far more original programming than Ion, and they can be far more expensive for those who subscribed to them as DNS feeds (like me), and the addition would amp up the (HD) LiL count in many smaller markets where the LiL count is smaller than the bigger cities.

    ~Alan
     
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    Not counting CW as unworthy. Only pointing out why directv would go with ion before CW. Bigger bang for the buck.
     
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    CBS has decent quality for TV shows, but their sports HD feed is the worst I have ever seen. So many artifacts I can barely watch it.
     
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    tonyd79

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    Another factor. Your local channel. Do they use sub channels or not. Too many factors in PQ to just denounce 720p as the main factor.
     
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    banditt76

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    I'm not saying 720p is the factor in the CBS feed. All I know is it is the worst HD feed of any, at least for sports. CBS is probably overly compressing the signal if anythings, it is that bad.
     
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    tonyd79

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    CBS is 1080i.
     
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    I do not have ION HD, just ION E & ION W
     
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    It'll come. Some can see the channel before they are supposed to because of a bug.
     
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    That makes the HD quality I get even worse in comparison.
     
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    tonyd79

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    And it proves my point. So much goes into this stuff and zealots point to 720p.
     
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    Same here about Flashpoint on ION HD. I held out absolutely no hope that ION would go HD anytime soon. Getting this is the icing on the festivus cake.
     
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    banditt76

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    My point about CBS had nothing to do with 720p. I was just saying in general 720p is crap compared to 1080i regardless of the content, which it is.
     
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    Alan Gordon

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    Yes, a lot of stuff can make the differences in those numbers mean less, but they are still there.

    Depending upon many factors, one might not be able to notice the difference, but many of us can.

    ~Alan
     
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    Believe what you want. Beliefs are often wrong.
     
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    They are not beliefs, they are facts.
     
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