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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. Hoosier205

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    What say we now? That you're overreacting and exaggerating. More HD is yet to come. Plenty of capacity is still available. Patience. The rest of the year will likely be very good for us via DirecTV. All this pi$$ing and moaning over a handful of channels. Nothing is ever good enough, that much is certain. They could offer every HD channel available and some folks would make up imaginary ones to complaint about.

    There is no need to feel bad for Satelliteracer because there is no evidence to support your assumptions that he is being given "the run-around." The factors in the Tango vary from one provider to another. Each negotiation is unique. Dish still hasn't bothered to add some channels as well. They even have a hard time keeping the ones they have. What they do offer is mucked up.

    Once again, there is no evidence to substantiate your claims. You simply don't understand the process or appreciate the difficulties involved. VOOM? Old channels provided through a now nonexistent service are not at all likely to be an issue for Dish when negotiating carriage of a channel currently available. Here is a simple and plausible excuse for DirecTV: Rainbow may be asking for more than DirecTV believes it should be paying for AMC HD alone or maybe the negotiations include more than one Rainbow owned network and again the asking price may be too high for DirecTV's liking.

    News Flash: DirecTV is a business and they make business decisions. They will add channels requested by customers if and when the terms are acceptable. They aren't going to throw wise business practices out the window simply to bring you a single channel when you demand it. You get what you get when they are ready to give it to you. You have only one option...choose a different provider if you are so unhappy. That is the only trick up your sleeve. You can make all the demands you want, but you may as well be talking to yourself.

    It should not be a surprise to anyone here that DirecTV is being methodical about this process. They always have been. I would rather them do that. I would rather them do it the right way. As opposed to Dish Network, where you have to deal with constant carriage disputes and a reduction in picture quality. If you want to support the legal careers of half the attorneys in this country...be my guest. Pay your ETF and enjoy.
     
  2. joed32

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    I wish they could add caps. All I use streaming for now is Pandora.
     
  3. James Long

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    Don't confuse the Voom HD satellite service with the package of HD channels marketed by Rainbow Media under the Voom HD brand name. The satellite service was a competitor to DISH and DirecTV using a satellite at 61.5. The channel package was 15 unique theme channels of 24/7 HD. DISH purchased the assets of the satellite service when it failed. They also worked out a carriage deal for the channel package (which was carried on 61.5 and 129 satellites).

    The issue with "Voom" is DISH invested in the channel package and expected Rainbow Media to use that investment to improve the Voom channels. DISH believed that not enough money was spent on content and pulled out of the contract. Rainbow Media disagreed and sued. That lawsuit is still pending (although a requested restraining order that would have forced the Voom channels to return to DISH was not granted). Yes, still pending after all of these years.

    The primary reason why the Voom channels are not available is because DISH pulled their support and carriage. Rainbow Media didn't appreciate that. Good negotiations don't come from bad blood. IF DISH and Rainbow Media have managed to set aside the Voom issue to add AMC-HD it will be a major step forward ... and an unexpected one for most DISH subscribers who have written off any chance of getting AMC due to the lawsuit (or WE, or IFC or Fuse - which was dropped in SD earlier this year).

    Hopefully this has brought you up to speed on the issue.

    I also hope that AMC can dance their way on to the DirecTV lineup. Then people can move on to the next channel they don't have. Right now it just seems like a stalemate more than a tango.
     
  4. MadManNBama

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    Look Hoosier, yes we have a lot to love about DTV and it's channel offerings, but a few of the ommissions do bother me also. Down here in Birmingham, even our sorry Brighthouse cable has BBC HD and AMC HD, which is rediculous that DTV doesn't.

    A good number of DTV subscribers watch shows on both networks, myself included. I've been into Mad Men and Breaking Bad from before they both started and have waited 3 years to see them in HD.

    Don't think of it as just random complaining, but I spend over $100 per month on DTV, but the list of competition and tech are growing very fast as other options. I can see all the HD AMC or BBC HD online if I want when I connect my Mac to my plasma. The new Apple TV or iTV will mark another option. Basically, I only NEED DTV for sports. So, to keep me from "very soon" downgrading my package to the basic $50 pack so that I keep HD and ESPN HD, DTV needs to step it up and not in the area of PPV. Heck, I have Netflix, and so do millons of others. I have Blu Ray, so the compressed overpriced PPV is stupid to me.

    Staying competitive is the name of the game Hoosier, this ain't 2008 anymore where DTV was covered in gold.
     
  5. Hutchinshouse

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    Watch it, you’re not to bad mouth DIRECTV. You may get a response back stating PPV is clearly a profitable venture. Hence the bazillion PPV channels. I however agree with you. Why spend more for less? I’ll never order a PPV movie from DIRECTV. Netflix looks better, sounds better, doesn’t have a 24 hour rule and cost less per movie than DIRECTV.

    Now to the matter at hand. ;)

    ATTN: DIRECTV Read this: http://www.ehow.com/how_4304_tango.html :lol:
     
  6. James Long

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    Ok, I watched my first episode of Top Gear last night. That is such a cool show. Thanks to DIRECTV for having it in HD on channel 101.

    Now I really hope we get BBCAHD ASAP! The fact that DIRECTV has the rights to air Top Gear in HD has to be a positive sign.
     
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  9. Alan Gordon

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    I think it's VERY important to keep in mind one of my favorite sayings: "Different strokes for different folks"...

    I would find both DIY and the Cooking Channel to be compelling adds, but if they are added prior to AMC or BBC America, I would find their addition "underwhelming". The reason is due to the fact that with AMC or BBC America, the programming I would watch could be considered a form of "appointment TV" (though with DVRs, that name doesn't really apply), whereas with DIY (and the Cooking Channel), I just tune in from time to time.

    Personally, I have ABSOLUTELY no interest in TruTV. I have never tuned to the channel, and adding it in HD wouldn't change that. That being said, with it's ratings and the addition of some basketball games, I find it hard to believe the "Sports Leader" isn't at least considering the channel.

    Personally, I have no interest in HLN either...

    Though there are multiple channels from DirecTV that I want, the only channels that would constitute a Festivus for me are AMC and BBC America. TCM would certainly be a mini-Festivus, and once launched, so would FearNet, Sony Pictures Movies, and Fox Movie Channel.

    Anything else, and I'd be disappointed... :(

    ~Alan
     
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    I watch a lot of cooking channel, but there's almost no HD content on the channel and by far I'd rather see their programming in SD correct aspect ratio rather than Food network stretch-o-vision.
     
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    I hope DISH does add AMC HD tomorrow. It'll help set the market and make tangoing easier not harder, and add pressure on D* --they really don't want to see any "you can only see Mad Men in HD on DISH" bits of E* commercials.

    PPVs don't require tangoing. It's much more appropriate to think of that as 13/80 = 16.3%. And even then, as many as they want can be reclaimed for nationals anytime they want at D*'s sole discretion, no tangoing or contracts to expire to wait on. That bandwidth is not locked into that role long-term in anything near the kind of way signing a new national locks-in bandwidth use going forward.
     
  12. mrsdrgn

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    Here is my HD wanted list.
    National Geo Wild HD
    History International HD
    IFC HD
    AMC HD
     
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  15. Jason Whiddon

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    Well, it's time for Directv to get off their butt. Epix, and Hallmark, and other less requested channels are spread on one or the other, but it's a little ridiculous that BBC and AMC can work a deal with the company that keep channels on, and we can't get them.

    I know premiums are a sore spot too, but the majority of posts mention either BBC or AMC, or both. These would be the two to make a lot of Directv subs happy at once.
     
  16. itzme

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    I'm just jealous. It's like my Tango partner just dipped and dropped me.
     
  17. Jason Whiddon

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    I was a little annoyed they are enjoying BBC in HD, but now I'm gonna be very annoyed. I still love Directv service, but cmon fellas.
     
  18. Alan Gordon

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    Dish Network offers both Hallmark Channel HD and Hallmark Movie Channel HD.

    You are corrected regarding Epix though...

    ~Alan
     
  19. Jason Whiddon

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    I was just trying to throw out examples of HD channels, that are not as mass market, IMO. I understand different strokes for diff folks, and I feel for the premium folks because they pay for those channels, but I gotta think AMC and BBC would make a good chunk of customers smile. My wife would love that new Cooking channel in HD.
     
  20. MysteryMan

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    Add TCM HD and FMC HD and that chunk will be a lot bigger!
     
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