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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.
DISH ... but that is irrelevant to how many DirecTV subscribers have expressed an opinion wanting AMC, IFC, TCM, BBCA, etc ...
I'm so glad TRAV is not on that list. If it was, I think I'd be with DISH right now. (or I'd be one bitter Hutchinshouse )
Does this constitute a valid reason why DIRECTV shouldn't carry the channel in HD? DIRECTV currently carries lots of channels under the guise of HD that offer the same (or worse) downsides with few to none of the upsides. Should they have not added them?
Managing expectations is a good and there may need to be more downward management on this front with respect to DIRECTV's non-sports programming offerings, but suggesting to someone else how they are going to feel about something so subjective doesn't seem entirely reasonable.
The faithful have long been assuring that with the bandwidth will come the fulfillment of their desires. Now that DIRECTV seems to have the bandwidth resources to make it happen, is it really time to be backpedaling on those assurances?
MaxFan may have hit upon something here. The Absence of non-premium AMC HD, TMC HD (and future FMC HD) may fit well with the unmistakable DirecTV agenda to push profit for Pay Per View. This eliminates competition from “free” (to non-premium subscribers) HD movies. Given a lot of the crap that Hollywood is making these days, older films in HD could be a serious threat.
It is even possible that if and when these channels, especially the non-commercial TCM HD and FMC HD are added, we will pay some new special fee.
Follow the money. DirecTV has become a large corporation and more than ever driven by profit. Opinions will differ if this is a good or bad, but it is a reality.
I sincerely doubt this...
No, just may help validate my prior comment that DISH subscribers may be more interested in stations like AMC HD and movie channels. As I said, there are a good number of dbstalk DIRECTV subscribers that have asked for it. Just not sure it carries over to the millions of DIRECTV subscribers that don't even know what dbstalk is.
And if we did a poll, I would check off that I want AMC HD, only because I want all stations in HD. I have my favorites set up as HD only. So if AMC HD is added, it would then be added to my favorites and show up in my guide as another channel to choose from. Personally, there are other stations I would prefer befor it, but that's just me.
Face it, both D* and E* are in it to make money, that's the whole reason to have a company. They both are taking somewhat different paths to those increased profits based on what they feel is in their financial best interest.
Our wants and desires are taken into account only so far as it impacts the bottom line.
I'd like to see E* have a bit more sports for those that want it, you all would like some more movie channels and other HD nationals. I think we'll both get our wishes in time.
Then we can go back to arguing over HD Lite!
lparsons21, I totally agree with that statement. And I hope my point wasn't about DISH customers wasn't taken out of context. I think everyone has a choice and they pick their provider based on what works best for them.
I just think that DISH and DIRECTV have different marketing philosophies. DIRECTV is slanted more towards the sports fan and HD, less on movies or pricing. DISH's advertising is more about price, movies and HD, but very little about sports.
I think you are seeing it right. For me, E* hits the spot better because the sports I'm most interested in are golf and boxing and neither provider has a leg up in those 2 sports. For NFL football, the NFL red zone lets me watch that the way I would anyway without me having to change the channel or see a bad play!
And I like the HD nationals and HD movie choices with E* better.
I could be on either service and be happy, but a bit happier with E*'s channels in HD.
And then if I were with D* and didn't have an HR24, I'd be mad just like I was when I had D* with my HR21!
Ironically, all the sports fans I know are with Dish Network...
As a veteran NCAA baseball umpire, I am more confident of my belief that sports fan are, in general, stupid. Your statement above convinces me even more.
I would like to know what DirecTV's true philosophy is now. There was a time when there was a sports channel-movie channel trade off between providers, but I'm not sure that's as much the case now. DirecTV has been focusing more on movies (they've added Starz and Showtime channels) and PPVs. The trade off now seems to be National HD channels. We know that sports is still a low priority among programming options for Dish Network; it would be nice to know on some official level how DirecTV currently prioritize it's programming options.
It's not like there is a great deal of overlap in the movies that AMC shows and the movies Showtime shows.
Personally, with my monster DVR HD, I record a movie I might like to watch (or more likely re-watch) sometime and it might be months before I get around to watching it.
It is to laugh.
Calling a huge group "in general, stupid" is so unbelievably gauche that I have to believe you were kidding.
However, in the same spirit, I believe baseball umpires are, in general, both stupid and blind.
Their true philosophy is called investing in channels that generate more incremental bottom line revenue.
I'm not a movie watcher, but if you are a family that does, PPV and movie channels are a bargain. A family of 4 going to a movie theater, I'm guessing, costs about $40? Then add the popcorn, candy and soft drinks, another $20+.
A PPV move in HD on your own home theater for a family of 4, $6. Buy your own popcorn candy and soft drinks, maybe $10? I think that's quite a savings. So I'm sure they sell plenty of PPV movies and movie channels these days, with everyone trying to cut back.
I kid only when the statement cannot be supported by the facts, which wasn't the case above.
You do realize you just insulted about everyone I know! :lol:
Seriously though. Though I'm disappointed in their HD channel lineup at the moment, DirecTV is certainly the superior provider for MY needs, but for many I know, Dish Network suits them just fine, and in some cases, is the superior provider to them. Different strokes for different folks...
You are correct regarding the "movie" focus!
Dish Network currently offers more HBO & Cinemax HD channels, but DirecTV offers ALL the Starz channels (aside from Indieplex and Retroplex), and all the East Coast Showtime channels.
On this, most all of us will agree!