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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. TheRatPatrol

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    Nice :D
     
  2. slimoli

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    C'mon...That's good news. Some people here were already speculating no more national HD, period.
     
  3. slimoli

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    I see your point and I agree. Thank you very much for the heads up , it's great news.
     
  4. iceturkee

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    bhn in central florida has about 111 to 113 hd channels and their local sports channel goes hd this month.
     
  5. Jason Whiddon

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    Glad to hear it, but as a paying customer, IMO, these "deals" should have already been worked on with anticipation of the satellite launch, and 6 weeks is a little irritating. Before i get the contracts lecture from the know it alls here, I work as a contractor and we negotiate a lot of contracts. I know it aint easy, but I think providers milk this excuse to much.

    PPP on your part, does not constitute forgiveness on mine.
     
  6. erosroadie

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    Gotta love Satelliteracer and his posts!!!
    :gott:

    Enough information to give us hope, but enough ambiguity to drive us crazy pining for details!!!:new_Eyecr
     
  7. loudo

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    Some people are under the understanding, as soon as a network is available in HD, it should show up on a providers service. Nice in theory, but in real life, it doesn't always work that way. Just because a provider carries an SD version of a network, it doesn't mean they can automaticly carry the HD version. It takes negotiation and contracts, just like when a new network initially goes live. When you are trying to negotiate with owners of a popular current SD channel, it will be a lot harder to come to an agreement than it would for one that is not so popular, and will probably end up costing more for the popular service. If providers just took the first offer from the network owners, our bills would be even higher than they are today.
     
  8. RACJ2

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    True, but if he mentioned any channels that were in the works and the deal fell through, everyone would be complaining "What happened to xxx channel that Satelliteracer promised".

    Its like the software company I work for. If any new enhancements that are being considered leak out and then they get dropped from a release, everyone asks "wheres the enhancement I was promised". So until something is concrete, most businesses don't disclose what might happen.
     
  9. Sixto

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    Thanks SR.

    Personally, just looked through our 4 DVR's and the only channels in the series managers not yet being recorded in HD are E!, Style, and WE tv.

    It sure is nice knowing there's lots of available bandwidth for whatever the future brings. ESPNU HD was a huge addition here.
     
  10. MysteryMan

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    I agree
     
  11. TheRatPatrol

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    Then how did E* get DIY, NGW, and Cooking HD channels up so fast after their debut?
     
  12. MysteryMan

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    Sharper lawyers
     
  13. loudo

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    I can only guess on that, but maybe they were working harder on an agreement to get those channels than DirecTV was. Also, could be the same reason that DirecTV has channels and packages like "YES", "Smithsonian", "MLB EI" or "NFL ST"when DISH doesn't.
     
  14. Hutchinshouse

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    Stop with all the silly talk. :lol:
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    What types of contracts? The same as the ones negotiated by DirecTV? I think not. Completely different scenarios with an entirely different set of variables. They may have been negotiating on many of these deals for months, possibly since before D12 was even launched. Let's not oversimplify things and jump to false assumptions.
     
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    :lol: Who's acting as a know it all, now? Did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night, too?
     
  17. James Long

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    Have you ever negotiated a channel carriage contract (from either the channel provider or carrier side)?

    If this discussion is only for channel negotiators we need to close this thread and only allow Satelliteracer to post. :)


    Have you ever negotiated any business contract? I've negotiated dozens of long term leases which are pretty much opposite of what DirecTV is doing (with the company desiring the space paying the person with the space for use of the space). DirecTV is paying the company with the content for permission to place that content in their space - and sell it to DirecTV customers (make a profit off of the rebroadcast).
     
  18. tonyd79

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    No, no, no, no, no.

    The cable companies have only the local RSN BY CHOICE. Nothing prevents them from providing RSNs from anywhere in the country. Fios provides YES (minus games,which is what DirecTV provides if you do not have EI, etc.) and SNY nationally, for example.

    You are not levelling the playing field. You are saying the cable companies define the playing field.

    There is nothing legally that prevents cable companies from providing out of market RSNs. If the technology is limited because of bandwidth or they made a choice, that is no different than DirecTV not having AMC or BBCA in HD at this point.
     
  19. Hutchinshouse

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    Let's not make things more complicated than they really are. :rolleyes:

    It all comes down to the number$. Plain and $imple. The channel owner wants the most $$, DIRECTV wants to pay the least $$ and offer it in a programming tier that will make them $$.

    Heck, I’m a great negotiator at yard or garage sales. Start with two numbers, end in the middle. It’s not rocket science. Ok, maybe I’m simplifying things just a tad. :lol:
     
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    It seems like several here define doing a good job negotiating contracts as getting the contract done as quickly as possible. In that light they are saying that Dish did a better job negotiating for some channels, such as AMC HD.

    While getting a channel quickly is certainly a prime considertation from the customer's perspective. (Which is the perspective that most of us have.) However, in this economy I am also interested in the price of service. While cost of a channel is not in direct ratio to the price that customers are charged, it certainly can have an indirect effect on that price.

    I'm sure those that have negotiated any sort of contract know that a deadline requirement usually means that the party imposing that requirement is at a disadvantage and often ends up paying more for the service as a result. Perhaps some of the channels assumed that Directv would be at this advantage in an effort to quickly populate the new satellite. Perhaps Directv would rather wait, and get the channels at a lower price.

    We don't really know what's going on in these negotiations. However, rather than assume that a quick agreement would make Directv a good negotiator, I lean toward the opinion that the delay means that they are playing tough on the negotiations.

    Bottom line is that we are still waiting for channels that we want. That's not fun. Perhaps I'm just a glass half full person, but maybe the wait will benefit us in the long run.
     
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