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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.
Perhaps Cable or DISH would suit you better.
see my post 3801, take away hockey and as far as I am concerned D* goes away unless they have every channel I watch in HD available by late spring. I can stream Netflix and watch most everything else in more than adequate quality for a whole lot less than the $100 I pay them each month. I get every local OTA in HD.
If the existing 160 or so channels doesn't provide you with content to view...you may be hard pressed to find the holy grail you seek, even though more HD channels will continue to be launched this year.
I think the beef is, it’s the year 2010, HD should not be considered a bell or whistle. We should not have to wait for HD. We all spent thousands on our HD gear. It really sucks watching SD on a big screen. The negotiation game needs to change. HD should not be treated as an addendum to the contract. We don’t pay extra for 5.1 DD. We don’t pay extra for color. HD should be treated the same way. I know it’s not DIRECTV’s fault. I just really wish providers and channel owners would stop putting HD on a pedestal. Just treat it as the new standard which it is.
They would have really been hurting, back in the old days when we only had 2 or 3 analog OTA stations to watch (satellite and cable were only a twinkle, in someones eye). I remember people saying, "There is never anything good to watch.", today we have hundreds of channels and they are still saying the same thing. :lol:
Forgive the mixing of thread topics, but it would be "really cool" if DirecTV fully rectified audio dropout issues along with adding the "basic national HD" networks mentioned in many posts rather than more HD RSNs (even though I enjoy the sports package) or niche channels.
I did see your post. I suscribe to Premier, HD Extra Pack, MLB and Sunday Ticket. As much as I love my sports they are seasonal and only part of the reason why I suscribe to DirecTV. The main reason I suscribe to them and have stayed with them is picture quality and programing. Yes DISH has made strides but they still pale in compaison with DirecTV. As for the lack of certain channels not being offered in HD by DirecTV I too am disappointed like everyone else is. In time we will have them. Forty years ago it took the networks the better part of a decade to convert to all color broadcasting and during that process people were complaining that it was taking too long. The day is coming when HD will be the norm and SD will be a thing of the past. "All things come to those who wait".
I agree, PQ is an issue, but my 61 year old eyes ain't as sharp as they used to be and they never were that sharp to begin with, so no PQ is not worth $100 per month in the summer when the few things I watch can be seen on line anyway. So, no AMC, DIY and a few other things, all of which need to be there, make it an easy choice. For instance I do not watch Madmen on Sunday night, so 4 times per month, ±$3 to watch the next day via Amazon is much cheaper. I doubt more than 1 million people tune in DIY more than once or twice per year, they ought to give it to providers in HD for free, I used to watch it all the time, now I rarely do. So, if I suspend service next summer that will be one less pair of somewhat frequent but still uncommon eyes on DIY.
I gave up on the audio dropout issue. Apparently their programmers aren't competent enough to fix it. All they did was exchange the stutter (or brrp) for silence. :nono:
and color is not exactly a valid comparator, because AMCHD is available, and once a program was sent out in color in 1965, everyone with a color set could see it that way.
To me....having 160 HD channels of "nothing to watch" is like having a closet full of clothes with "nothing to wear".
If we had twice the channels, my guess is we'd still be hearing the same thing....sad but true.
In the mean time....I anticipate more coming soon in the weeks and months ahead still in 2010. Until then....I'll "suffer" watching HD in place as I work to "catch up" with all the HD DVR recordings I still have not yet viewed.
Same situation here. Because of age eyes arn't what they used to be. I had my TV calibrated and can notice the differences in picture quality even without my glasses. Given with what you have stated I can agree with your actions. We all do what's best for our personal interests.
Call it laziness, or call it an attempt to "simplify" the list, but I want to keep it fairly simple. Some of the other channels listed in the catagories that might make it to the HD Extra package are available in HD only, some are also available in SD form. However, aside from C-SPAN3, the rest of the channels mentioned will most likely have their best shot of making it DirecTV ONLY as HD channels and be placed in the HD Extra package.
I may tweak it some more in the weeks ahead though, so I'll keep your recommendation in mind.
Though your point is still valid (and very true!), the 160 channel comment is rather pointless. Unless one like sports, partakes of PPV frequently, and has access to the HD-DNS feeds, that number is considerably lower.
Also it's important to remember, that some channels one might watch one program on per week, while other channels one might watch multiple programs on per week. If the latter channel is not in HD, it's considerably frustrating to not have access to it in HD.
While I'm looking forward to upcoming programs on BBC America and AMC that I'm HOPING I will have access to in HD, most of my upcoming TV viewing will be programming from the broadcast networks which I now get from either my "local" channels or HD-DNS.
HEY!! That was me 16 years ago!
Absolutely! Though I think most of want channels due to the programming residing on them, and not just channels for the sake of having them...
and as for sat racer's post about really cool things, 3D is of no interest, given the economy I seriously doubt that 3D tv's are flying off the shelf at Best Buy and having watched it there, it was not so interesting that I would not rather have everything available in HD available on D* before I worried about 3D.
I seriously doubt he was referring to 3D...
Whether or not you think what he was talking about is cool... well, I'm questioning that myself...
yeah, I have a hard time imagining anything other than everything now theoretically available in HD as being available in HD on D* and if D* thinks anything else is going to be cool enough to keep their current sub base in light of what else is becoming available, particularly internet streaming which will be much cooler in the next two years, maybe less, they are going to have lots of sats and far fewer places to beam to.
I've gotten to wondering....We're all well aware that some subset of channels pay D* to be carried (religious channels, shopping channels, etc). I expect (anticipate? ) that some of those channels (notably shopping channels), will begin broadcasting in HD (QVC already does) and will approach D* about carriage if they have not done so already. I would also expect those channels to to offer D* additional revenue for that carriage. While none of us may desire an HD shopping channel before our own personal "Top 5 that D* Doesn't Carry", I'll go out on a limb and say that "I anticipate that D* will add an HD shopping channel before completing the top 10 on our voted list" - if only because it's really, really hard to turn away guaranteed revenue. To borrow from the tango metaphor, D* has a fair number of slots left on their dance card and when QVC asks: "D*, would you like to dance? Here's $X." - why wouldn't they say yes? We forum-ites would be unhappy (but as has been stated ad nauseaum we're not a representative sample), QVC viewers (in this example) would be happy, QVC would be happy, D* would be happy, and 98% of D* viewers (those who are not us nor QVC viewers) would be clueless. Of course, this means considering the guaranteed revenue gained versus any potential, unguaranteed incremental income from adding channel X - which has yet to be negotiated.
I'm in a similar boat.
To me, the coolest thing DirecTV could possibly do is to give me the channels I watch in HD.
Of course, I'd love to have program guide data for The CW & ABC so I can record them, as well as not having to worry about Series Link limits, and the ability to archive programming to external hard drives, and move recordings from one DVR to another.
If I can think about some things that I'd like to see, I imagine there are a large amount of things out there that I can't think of...
Whether or not it's something I will care about remains to be seen...
That right there (HD beign a premium when its the defacto standard) chaps my hide the most.