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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. hdtvfan0001

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    Insults are a no no sir. Let's not get ridiculous.:rolleyes:

    It's HDfan, not HDfanatic.

    First of all...you clearly didn't understand my comment. It has nothing to do with "different tastes".

    If someone claims to have actually have all 29 of the new channels added since D12 went live, it means they have the Premium package and HD package both, since a number of these channels included different premium movie channels, in addition to other HD channels that are not movie channels. That costs a fair amount of optional channel $$$.

    In that context, claiming to have watched 10 minutes of all 29 channels (and paying for HD service and the Premium service), and then to state they have only used only 10 minutes of viewing time among all that content....yes...that would seem like a waste of money to alot of folks. Thena gain, as I also stated earlier...it's their money.

    The reality in the OP about BBC HD was that there was a point being made, even though it was done via an exaggeration - the poster prefers BBC programming more than any other channels, and would like to see BBC HD. I "got it" the first time - apparently a few others didin't.

    We get it....I get it....the OP loves his BBC, and wants BBC HD. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

    The statement that they would sacrifice all other HD channels and content to get that one channel was certainly an opinion, and one they were entitled to like anyone else. But claiming to have Premium service, and HD service, and watch a total of 10 minutes in total was an over-the-top exageration to make the point about enjoying the BBC channel - it still makes no sense, no matter how you slice it (especially if someone actually had all 29 of those channels as they claim).

    What is obvious as well is that there seem to be a group of about 6-8 channels that many posters are hoping for (based on repeated posts to that effect)....BBC HD among them. It would be good to satisfy their preferences in viewing.

    It seems quite clear that AMC HD, BBC HD, DIY, and others are popular new HD channel preferences.
     
  2. James Long

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    There are probably ways of cutting their bills. If they never watch any of the premiums or sports they can step away from Premier ... but just because they have not enjoyed 10 minutes of any of the new channels does not mean they have not watched other channels at that level of programming.

    Seven of the new channels were new PPV channels ... oh joy. Would watching a PPV on one of the other 28 PPV channels count as 10 minutes of viewing a new PPV channel?
    Nine new channels were movie channels ... but one can still enjoy the core movie channels in those packages without watching 10 minutes of the specialty versions.
    Three new RSNs ... not helpful unless one is in your area (any NFL/NBA/MLB etc games were already covered on part time channels).
    The rest were regular channels that one gets in Choice or Choice Xtra ... with plenty of other HDs to enjoy in those packages.

    I would not consider a person who had all of those channels available and not watch them as "wasting their money" as the money spent to get those channels ALSO pays for valuable channels that existed in HD before May.
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

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    Then we simply agree to disagree, as I know I would not have the money to throw at all those 29 new HD channels (including the Premier service to get them) and then not watch them. Others might.
     
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    you forgot to include that for all intents and purposes HD is free now. The only added cost for HD now is the upfront lease fee is more expensive than a SD box. Once you get past that point its all the same cost if you ask, at least for the next two years.

    I do have to say with my disappointment with D11 and now not getting much national HD with D12 I am starting to look at other places. My contract is over in a couple of months, if D flops out on offering more national HD I probably will be on another forum this time next year. Those we had capacity for over 200 HD channels feel like I just got hit in the head with a 2X4. In my mind slightly downsized rez is better than SD.

    I see a lot of people blaming negotiations, but I can't understand how DISH can get carriage deals and keep their customer bills comparable to what DTV pays. Looking at their SEC filing they are still turning a profit!
     
  5. hdtvfan0001

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    You're missing the point. The money is thrown to get OTHER channels. The 29 new ones are included free.

    DirecTV had 130~ decent HD channels before May that people paid for and were happy to watch. Unless your contention is that DirecTV's prior channels are garbage and only the new 29 are worth anything. :confused:

    People who enjoy the previous 130 channels could still be getting their money's worth. :rolleyes:


    We're looking at the overall cost ... including the SD channels (since DirecTV doesn't sell HD without SD). The question being why would someone pay at least $129.98 per month for Premier plus HD and the HD Extra Pack and not watch the 29 new HD channels. My answer ... the other 130 channels are worth watching.
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

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    No...they are not.

    You can't get the movie channels without the Premium channel fees or Premier package...if none are being watch...money down the drain.
     
  8. Hutchinshouse

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    Where's the new HD be at?
     
  9. James Long

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    How can I explain this any simpler?

    May 1st ... subscribe to Premier plus HD and HD Extra for $129.98. Enjoy 130 channels of HD including non-blacked out content on 27 24/7 RSNs, 14 premium movie channels and a selection of 28 HD PPV movie channels.

    July 1st ... subscribe to the same level and cost of programming and receive 29 more viewing options. No extra cost. Same price as May 1st.

    Why can't a subscriber get their money's worth with what was available May 1st?

    Why can't a subscriber say they have watched less than 10 minutes of the 29 new HD channels without being accused of wasting their money? It isn't costing them a penny more for July 1st DirecTV HD than it did for May 1st DirecTV HD and they could be enjoying the other premiums they pay for.
     
  10. jerrylove56

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    Was hoping for a suprise this A.M. Nothing but PPV Cinema. Oh what joy
     
  11. Hutchinshouse

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    YES! 35 showings (each day) of the same program is not nearly enough for me. More PPV please. :hair:

    I feel so sorry for the peeps waiting for BBCHD. What a joke. :shrug:

    Disclaimer: I know why DIRECTV offers PPV. :money:

    :beatdeadhorse:
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    Accuracy or completeness would be a good start. ;)

    The OP indicated he would trade in all of his new 29 HD channels for just the one in particular. They also indicated they only watched all of those channels a grand total of 10 minutes - ever.

    Whether they signed up for the Premier package or premium channels required to make that claim...you would have to have to get all 29 HD channels....after or before....paying for all those channels when you don't ever watch them would seem to many folks like wasting money. Simple.

    So perhaps now we can get... :backtotop
     
  13. bjdotson

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    I understood this when I read the original post. I have showtime and now I have showtime women. big whoop. That addition didn't add value to my package, but it didn't take it away either.
     
  14. hdtvfan0001

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    Understand your point clearly.

    Unfortunately...the OP that fueled this topic debate made a broader claim:

    So to that end...let's end the debate and get back to topic.
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    Well, it did add value to the package. The price for Showtime alone is $12.99. We used to pay $12.99 for 7 HD channels. Now we pay $12.99 for 10 HD channels. That's more bang for our buck whether we watch them or not. The same applies to those who subscribe to Premier or multiple premiums at a discount. Whether we watch them or not, we are getting more for our money.
     
  16. James Long

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    In other words ... he doesn't care about the 29 new channels added in May/June (except The Travel Channel as noted before I edited his post for emphasis). He'd rather have BBC HD than those channels.

    Nowhere in that statement (even unedited) does he say that he would trade any or all of the other 130 available HD channels for BBC HD - although I suspect with his desire to get BBC HD there is a channel (or more) in the original 130 he'd trade. He's still getting his money's worth out of the original 130 channels.

    Somewhere you misread his statement and, with respect, took it out of proportion. His statement is ONLY about giving up the 29 new channels - not the rest of the channels that give value to paying more or less $129.98 for Premier w/HD plus HD Extra.

    Yes, we have reached the :beatdeadhorse: of explaining this.

    So, what will be the next 29 channels added that someone would be willing to trade for a 30th channel that is not added as part of the 29? :D
     
  17. hdtvfan0001

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    Grass growing HD
    Paint Drying HD
    Knitting HD
    10 new HD Shopping Channels

    Sure you want that list? :D
     
  18. James Long

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    So ... if adding the last 29 channels made DirecTV HD worth more, before these adds was DirecTV HD worthless? :D
     
  19. Hoosier205

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    No, you're thinking of the other satellite provider.
     
  20. Alan Gordon

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    Yep! :D

    My copy is already pre-ordered...

    The second season of "Being Human" which premieres on BBC America this weekend should also have a Blu-ray release in a couple of months...

    Hopefully an agreement will be worked out in time for the "Doctor Who" Christmas special...

    ~Alan
     
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