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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.
There was no bet, at least on my part. There was a hope and a longing.
Dream big ... If they are going to be on 101 why not have them 24 hours BEFORE their normal network release?
...and so we now all know...
Sorry...maybe they'll be included in another round of new HD channel additions (stated to be in August and beyond).
True, but the freeing up of satellite bandwidth, that could be used for something else, by only needing one channel for many that now have two, would drop the cost of supplying everyone with the HD receivers.
I like the idea. Damages will be shown on Directv ch 101 only, no network at all. Only way to watch seasons 4 and 5 is being a Directv subscriber, smart move.
That math has been run before... and the cost of replacing everyone's receiver is FAR higher than additional satellites...
Like NASA TVHD , it went live 7/19/10
I made a similar prediction that was shot down as well...
Oh well... the PQ will look better on Blu-ray anyway...
They may charge you $200 to "buy" the HD DVR you lease and $100 to buy the HD receiver, but do you think it costs them that much to make, my guess, based on a knowledge of pricing in relation to selling cost is ±$50 for the dvr and ±$ 20-30 for the receiver. At some point they will replace everything, no one buys an SD TV anymore................ My guess is that SD goes away in 2 years because that is how long the "Free HD" promo goes if you have autopay. If not, they will have to extend the promo or make HD free.
I'd love to see your breakdown on pricing for all the hardware components that go into a HD DVR like the HR24 to come up with the around $50 price.
Wholesale cost price on the 500GB hard drive alone is almost that much.
Not when you are buying them by the millions.
There are older mpeg4 capable models than HR24, however. And indeed returns of those older models for new HR24s make them available to move down the food chain at just the cost of storage/distribution.
Having said that, somewhere in the last few months I recall reading a Comcast financial anaylst call transcript where they said their newest stbs were running them around $150.
They are not. They would have to to replace receivers in all 18 million homes ... but then it could be argued that less impressive receivers including non-DVRs could be built for an MPEG4 conversion push.
(Although adding a $7 DVR fee and possibly a $3 addition "whole house" DVR fee to all 18 million accounts monthly would be a good way of raising cash.)
In any case ... the cost of DVRs/receivers has as little to do with the cost of tea in China in this thread. This isn't a thread about the fantasized conversion to MPEG4 ... this is a thread about fantasized additions to DirecTV's HD lineup.
(Real additions to DirecTV's HD lineup will be noted in other non-anticipation threads.)
They still have a cost to manufacture. I have seen the wholesale cost for one manufacturer who buys "millions" of 320GB drives from Seagate @$31 (a few cents less). The 500GB drives would likely cost $10 - $15 more.
The point is...if that alone is that much...how can all the other electronics (CPU, video chip, network chips, power supply) add up to $50. No way.
So on that note....back to channel anticipating...
Yes, I agree with you and the other poster that there would be savings there just not enough. With millions of boxes to replace it still isn't going to let them do it. As more and more people switch to HD it will eventually reach a tipping point where it will be profitable to do it. At that point I'm sure that they will. I think they should stop making SD units now and provide new customers with HDs. That would hurry things along. but they will do whatever will make/save them the most money in the long run.
What's a measly 24 hours. Friday Night Lights is on the 101 a full 6 months before NBC.
I do not know what it costs them, but almost everything in the world is made for 25% or less of what you buy it for. This is certainly the case for anything short of major purchases, think of inventory in a store, returns........... If it weren't no one could buy it. That $130 bd player that target sold you had to cost them less than $100 and the manufacturer had to make a profit well above what it cost to make per se when they sold it to Target for say $90. If they didn't there was no way they could engineer new models to stay competitive.
As time goes on and as more people switch over to HD the cost to change everyone over will be at a point where it will be worth it, just to free up transponder space.
That time is off in the considerable future. You're talking a lot of boxes. Time is definitely the key, but at what point is the tipping point where it makes sense?
Cost of the boxes (most customers have more than 1 box)
Cost of shipping to customer
Increased handle times for customer service
Potential truck rolls and all the costs that go along with that (labor, etc)