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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    My receiver often does. It is "off" until I first turn it on for the day ... then I pick a channel and watch it or previously recorded content. When done the TV gets turned off but the receiver stays tuned to the last channel I was watching for hours that no one is viewing.

    I wonder how many receivers are "off" all day? People who don't turn on their TV and receivers for morning TV before leaving for work. I wonder how much people who tune to a channel then turn of the TV affects the "hot" application?

    They would need people meters to make sure someone was actually watching. How often does the ratings staff check with that camera mounted in the front of the receiver to see if someone is in the room? Or are they still watching the feed from the receiver of the cute girl that likes to watch TV naked while exercising? :)

    DirecTV doesn't know if your TV is on or off. They have a better clue that you're watching if you are using the remote occasionally but they don't know who is watching so demographics are out the window. If I were to use receiver stats for anything it would be for what gets recorded and viewed. To get a picture of their audience any better than that would require a real survey.
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

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    Actually I wore a "people meter" for about 2 years, which recorded what (including the channel name/number) I watched, when I watched it, where (including traveling to other cities), and how (it recorded both TV and radio, including in the car. It also supposedly knew the difference between a DVR playback and live broadcast. The ratings folks have done this for a long time now.

    Those stats get collected from tens of thousands of people wearing "people meters" every year.
     
  3. Alan Gordon

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    I'm wanting to say I've seen the nets in national, but you must remember that programming on the nets are time delayed... so when a program on the East Coast is popular on the networks, people in the other three time zones aren't watching it, which may cancel out the popularity nationally.

    EXACTLY!!

    Some of us may be snobs about HD, OAR, edited content, and commercial interuptions, but some people don't. Given the popularity of channels like TCM, LMN, and the Encore suite (particularly Encore Western) on the list, the lack of an HD channel isn't really hurting these channels on DirecTV too much...

    ~Alan
     
  4. Steve

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    And realizing this still doesn't change the argument why these channels shouldn't be broadcast in HD as well, because if they're that popular with the SD half the subscriber base, they should, by extension, be very popular with us HD snobs as well! :lol:
     
  5. Alan Gordon

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    My receiver stays on The Weather Channel (unless it's recording on both tuners)... however, the stats often change on What's Hot!. For instance, AMC was on the list the other day when "The Mummy" was playing. When it went off, AMC dropped off the list. The list is not static. One minute a movie in # place could go up the list, down the list, or be replaced (if it's near the bottom of the list, or the movie went off).

    I imagine DirecTV has enough "semi-accurate" data to get an idea... :rolleyes:

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  6. Alan Gordon

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    And once again, you've understood the point I've been trying to make! :D

    ~Alan
     
  7. dcowboy7

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    Im almost sure i checked it during the nba finals live in all timezones & it wasnt there....no way that wasnt in the top 5.
     
  8. jerrylove56

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    Actually, I will DVR an AMC movie now and then and fast forward pass the commericals. They do have a pretty good movie inventory. Just the commericals and poor pq are the reasons I avoid.
     
  9. fortnerw

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    Well I am still holding out for RFDTVHD. I am glad I am not holding my breath or I would be expired!!!:nono2:
     
  10. James Long

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    Eastern and central time stations air programming at the same time. Geographically half of the country is seeing network programming at the same time.
     
  11. trainman

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    Eastern plus Central is quite a bit more than half, actually -- closer to 70% of the population lives in those two time zones.
     
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    Time zone..........Percent
    Eastern..............47.0
    Central..............32.9
    Mountain..............5.4
    Pacific..............14.1
    Alaska and Hawaii.....0.6


    Source: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=607227
     
  13. James Long

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    79.9% is closer to 70% than half. :)

    (And I did say geographically half - although populational half is a better measure of how much influence the airing of a program on a broadcast network should have. Perhaps DirecTV's "what's hot" doesn't do a good job of aggregating over a hundred affiliate feeds as a "hot program".)
     
  14. Alan Gordon

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    Yeah... I have nothing against the movies they play...

    Admittedly, I was not exactly aware of this. If I had thought about it, I probably would have realized, but apparently, I never thought about it.

    I've had a bad day.

    Had I had a better day, I might have been able to comment earlier on the fact that "NATIONAL" only lists "NATIONAL" channels... whereas the individual time zones include the broadcast networks as well. The idea behind "What's Hot!" is to give one ideas on programs to watch. If one is watching "Flashpoint" on the West Coast, it's too late for someone on the East Coast to tune in... hence why the broadcast networks are OMITTED from "National" and only included in individual time zones.

    HOWEVER, this has NO bearing on the fact that AMC is often included in the top 5 movie section as it's not seperated into time zones.

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  16. James Long

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    That's ok. I see the error often. I live close to the Eastern/Central time line (close enough that the issue of what time zone we should be is debated heavily a few years ago when my state started observing daylight time). So I'm more aware of the issue.

    Perhaps that will also help explain why broadcast network TV promos have "10/9 central" wording on them on them? :D

    So during a "top rated" show like Mad Men AMC has a hope of getting on the list in some time zone? Or are the ratings too low to compete against OTA network broadcasters?

    Top, as observed, in a narrow category. In any case, I'm sure DirecTV will add AMC as soon as the dance is over. Unfortunately the playlist looks longer than originally hoped. Lots more tango coming up!


    Ahem ....
     
  17. Maruuk

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    I like to check in on this thread every few weeks. And every few weeks...nuthin'. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Fin. I would describe D*'s progress in these matters as "glacial", but glaciers are F1 cars compared to D*. Generations pass before our eyes. The only way we're getting BBCA-HD, AMC-HD and CW-HD in our lifetimes is to steal a Tardis. I asked a Time Lord once when we're getting Don Draper in HD. He merely responded, "Who?" Doesn't bode well...
     
  18. tyrok3k

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    I once saw G4 in the top five movies being watched. That probably means just as much as any other SD network appearing in the top five.
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

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    Maybe your next click in will be more fruitful.
     
  20. dcowboy7

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    But the broadcast nets are national channels....like i mentioned everyone was getting the nba game on abc at the same time.
     
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