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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 26, 2011.
I occasionally watch Syfy. Does that make me a wrestlophile?
I hear you . It's my understanding that this thread is more loosely moderated for a "vent" environment but I seldom post here for the same reason as you mentioned. I don't watch AMC but I've not bashed the channel or those that like it and are "festivus'ing" since last Fri 6am ET.
It's regrettable that that it often doesn't work the other way. I've read many posts here about "precious sports" channels, and other remarks aimed at those DirectTV customers that are happy with the service. I think we all agree that more HD is better for everyone.
There would be no bickering if Directv would add every known HD channel...
Perhaps not in this thread, but you can bet there would be some threads about DIRECTV's cost...
Like people need an excuse to complain about DirecTV's cost.
Back in the day, when there were 10 HD channels, sure, it was an upgrade. Today, HD is mainstream. Any channels out there that we don't have in HD today don't deserve higher price to get in HD. For that matter, niether DirecTV or us should be paying extra for HD. For the most part, DirecTV isn't even charging extra for it (OK, they aren't if you autopay).
IIRC, some channels, like ESPN have stopped distributing SD signals, SD is downconverted from the HD feed.
These channels need disabused of the notion that they are entitled to raise their fees just to get their HD signal.
Full Time: Fox Soccer Plus
History Channel International
National Geographic Wild
ESPN Long Horn Network
ESPN Goal Line / ESPN Buzzer Beater
Lifetime Movie Network
Turner Classic Movies
Fox Movie Channel
New Encore HD Channels
EPIX 1, 2, 3
CSPAN 1, 2, 3
........and ~10 more........I know i'm greedy....
Updated after polling the house.
You talking about me? I can live with that. However, I'm not so sure about the niche part.
I have noticed that the BBC America programs on Directv VOD are uncut, so they show the whole hour without 15 minutes of commercials. How long after the first showing of a program does it appear on VOD usually? And how long do they leave an episode up on VOD?
As we anticipate BBC America in HD, it is nice to know you can watch them uncut on VOD.
And is it my imagination, or does the SD version on VOD look better than the SD version on the channel itself. it seems to look better on VOD.
To answer your question vis-a-vis new subscribers:
Outside Philadelphia, I suspect just a few new subscribers altogether. If there would be any noticeable increase, that would likely be the Sports Pack subscriptions for those already with D*. That, like most other RSNs, will complement any premium sports package and those displaced from Philadelphia for any reason could still watch their games on the respective out-of-market package. With the addition of CSN Philly, the Philadelphia feeds would be more readily available on NHLCI, NBALP, and MLBEI, and more recently, the MLS package.
In short, C* is not just withholding the RSN, but majority of the home feeds for those who live elsewhere as well.
Now it is an entirely different story for those within the Philadelphia DMA. Local RSNs are on the Choice Package and D* could easily compete on the pricing front. I think you know the rest.
There's nothing wrong with a channel being considered niche, in fact most channels could probably be considered niche. ESPN isn't though cuz it covers every sport pretty much. Niche means it caters to a distinct segment of the population. ESPN caters to MEN (roughly 50% of the population).
I don't see what's wrong with being called an Anglophile either. It's not a derogatory term, it just means you like British things.
My statement about BBCA being watched by barely anyone was sarcastic too btw.
ESPN covers sports. That's a niche... a popular niche, but still a niche. Your statement that ESPN caters to men, would also be a niche... if it were true. I personally have little interest in the channel (though I did watch the SC @ GA game Saturday) as do multiple guys I know. I also know many women who consider it one of, if not their favorite channel(s).
I would not be offended by being called an Anglophile, I just don't think I am one... nor do I see how liking shows on BBCA would make me one.
Your statement regarding BBCA is not entirely incorrect though. The channel is not the most popular among channels, but it does provide some programming that people are passionate about, so it would be (IMHO), a good get for DirecTV.
ESPN is not niche, it covers all sports. Niche sports channels are ones that only cover 1 sport (MLBN, NFLN, etc.). I didn't say all men watch it either, (I only watch Michigan football on it myself), or that women don't watch it; but watch it for a couple of days and you'll clearly see the male population is obviously their target audience.
Anyways, I hope the next Festivus is more than 1 channel.
We can all argue what constitute a "niche" channel, and for what it's worth, I do agree that ESPN is less of a "niche" channel than those other channels, but the fact that it only broadcasts sports related material means that it has a niche... Sports.
You're certainly entitled to see things differently...
"Sports" isn't a niche. Per dictionary.com, (definition 3), niche is "a distinct segment of a market." In the TV industry they'd call it a "target demographic". In ESPN's case, a large amount of men.
As long as were are requesting, I want RFD in HD so I can watch the Livestock Auctions in HD...nothing like seeing a weaned heifer calf in 1080i...cmon, whos with me?
Except Hockey. If you're a hockey fan you can easily go the whole year without tuning to ESPN more than like 2 times, and a flat zero if all you watch is the NHL.
And with each pro sport getting its own specialty channel there's even less reason to watch ESPN. I really wish there was a way to just turn off all ESPN networks and get like $5-6 off my bill a month. I'm a sports fan and I almost never watch that channel anymore.
I barely watch it either, except Michigan football or the 1 time a season they pick up the Tigers on Sundays. My Lions will be on MNF this season too, first time since 2001. Your Vikings seem to play on it a few times a year too.
It's the most popular sports channel on TV though and if D* or anyone else removed it there'd be a huge uproar.
Funny. I looked up the same definition and decided that it was niche because sports is a distinct portion of the TV market.
ESPN does not do news. They do not do fiction unless it is sports. Everything they do is defined by one word: sports. That makes it niche.
Niche is not size determined. It is by definition.
Well it's the most popular niche channel out there then, that's why they can get away with charging so much.
I hope the next Festivus is at least 5 channels.