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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4-12 Thread)

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#1 ·
Please use this thread to discuss your feelings about upcoming national HD channels.

This thread will not be as tightly moderated as the rest of the site, but here's the tradeoff...in exchange for being able to rant a bit more, you can be assured that absolutely no one at DIRECTV will be using this thread for reference.

You can ask for all the new HD you want, but DIRECTV's marketing department knows that the 100-150 contributors to this thread are only a small part of the nearly 20,000,000 total subscribers.

*Please remember that all forum rules are still in effect.
*Please do not "bump" this thread.
*Other threads that do nothing but anticipate HD channels for which there is no information will be closed.
*This is not a DIRECTV vs. Dish thread, there are other threads for that.

If you have any questions as to what belongs in this thread or an individual channel thread please read the latest DIRECTV Programming Forum Rules (Link).
 
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#2 ·
Welcome to the 4th Quarter!

PAC-12 didn't happen, will it happen this quarter?
I still anticipate TWC Sportsnet Los Angeles, but not before tough negotiations.
 
#3 ·
NON-PREMIUM HD CHANNELS OFFERED ONLY IN SD* BY DIRECTV (43):

  1. Bloomberg Television
  2. BYU TV
  3. Chiller
  4. C-SPAN
  5. C-SPAN2
  6. Centric
  7. Cooking Channel
  8. EWTN
  9. Fox Movie Channel
  10. Fuse
  11. Galavision
  12. Game Show Network
  13. Gospel Music Channel
  14. H2 (formerly History International)
  15. Headline News
  16. Home Shopping Network
  17. IFC
  18. Investigation Discovery
  19. ION West
  20. Jewelry TV
  21. Lifetime Movie Network
  22. Logo
  23. Military Channel
  24. MTV2
  25. NASA TV
  26. Oprah Winfrey Network
  27. Outdoor Channel
  28. Ovation TV
  29. QVC
  30. Reelz Channel
  31. RFD-TV
  32. Shop NBC
  33. Sportsman Channel
  34. Sprout
  35. Style Network
  36. Sundance Channel
  37. The Hub
  38. TBN
  39. TV Guide Channel
  40. TV Land
  41. TVOne
  42. Universal Sports
  43. WeTV
* Channels in blue have HD VOD content available.

NON-PREMIUM HD CHANNELS LAUNCHING SOON THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD,
WITH POTENTIAL HD CARRIAGE CHANCES UNKNOWN (2):


  1. Fox College Sports (2012???)
  2. TVG Network (2012)

DNS CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD (3):

  1. CW East (WDCW)
  2. CW West (XETV)
  3. PBS

SPANISH LANGUAGE CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD (11):

  1. A Toda Musica
  2. Azteca America
  3. Azteca Mexico
  4. BeIN Sport Dos
  5. ESPN Deportes
  6. Fox Deportes
  7. GolTV
  8. Telemundo (East & West feeds in the 400s. Local Telemundo affiliates may be available in HD)
  9. TeleNoticias 24
  10. Television Espanola

SPANISH LANGUAGE HD CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY IN SD (1):
  1. Univision Deportes Network

SPANISH LANGUAGE PREMIUM CHANNELS COMING SOON THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY AT ALL (1):

  1. Encore Espanol (2012????)

NON-PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY AT ALL (29):

  1. Africa Channel
  2. Aspire
  3. BBC World News
  4. BlueHighways TV
  5. Catholic TV
  6. Comedy.TV
  7. C-SPAN3
  8. ES.TV
  9. Fashion TV
  10. FearNet
  11. FUNimation Channel
  12. G4 (SD channel removed from DirecTV lineup on November 1, 2010)
  13. Halogen
  14. Havoc TV
  15. Longhorn Network
  16. MavTV
  17. Military History Channel
  18. MyDestination.TV
  19. NHK World TV
  20. Nuvo TV
  21. Pac-12 Network
  22. Pentagon Channel
  23. Pets.TV
  24. PixL
  25. Recipe.TV
  26. SWRV
  27. Veria HD
  28. WealthTV
  29. World Fishing Network

NON-PREMIUM HD CHANNELS LAUNCHING SOON THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY IN SD (4):

  1. HBCU Network (February, 2012)
  2. Legacy.TV (1Q 2012)
  3. RLTV (December, 2012)
  4. WWE Network (???)

PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD (2):

  1. Encore Action
  2. Encore Drama

PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY AT ALL (6):

  1. Epix 1
  2. Epix 2
  3. Epix 3
  4. Indieplex
  5. Retroplex
  6. OuterMax

RSN CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CARRIES IN HD PART TIME (????):
  1. Fox Sports Cincinnati
  2. Fox Sports Kansas City
  3. Fox Sports Ohio
  4. Fox Sports San Diego

RSN CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY AT ALL (????):

  1. Comcast Sports Northwest
  2. CSN Houston (October 1, 2012)
  3. CSN Philadelphia
  4. CSN Philadelphia +
  5. CSS
  6. HRTV
  7. Longhorn Network
  8. Pac-12 Washington
  9. Pac-12 Oregon
  10. Pac-12 Northern California
  11. Pac-12 Southern California
  12. Pac-12 Arizona
  13. Pac-12 Mountain
  14. TCN Philadelphia

RSN CHANNELS COMING SOON THAT DIRECTV DOES NOT CARRY AT ALL (???????):

"ADULT" CHANNELS LAUNCHING SOON THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, WITH
POTENTIAL HD CARRIAGE CHANCES UNKNOWN (2):


  1. Hustler HD
  2. Playboy HD

Channels marked in red are channels currently not available.

Omitted (non-DNS) all West Coast feeds due to previous comments made by Satelliteracer,
except for ION HD West given it's status as a broadcast network.

Special thanks go out to URFloorMatt from AVSForum.com for his charts, as well as to BigRedFan for her help regarding the Spanish Language Channels.
 
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MY WISHLIST

  1. CW HD-DNS (channels #394 & #395) :)
    While I will continue to hold out hope that it will come prior to the start of the new
    Fall season (October 2nd is when it starts for The CW), I don't expect them until D14.
  2. TV Land HD (channel #304) :)
    My hope is that the recent Viacom deal included TV Land HD. Of all the channels on my
    wishlist, it's the one that I feel I have the best chance of receiving this year.
  3. Lifetime Movie Network HD (channel #253)
    Overall, I only watch this channel around November/December, so with it being October,
    it's higher on my list than it might usually be.
  4. Cooking Channel HD (channel #232)
    Watched frequently at this home.

While I'd LIKE to have multiple other channels, including The Hub and Fox Movie Channel, if I could get the channels listed above (particularly the top two), I'd be pretty much satisfied with their national channel lineup for the time being.

Of course, on the locals front, I'm still waiting on ABC-HD, and will continue to hold out hope that I won't have to wait on CW-HD when it launches next year. :(

~Alan
 
#8 ·
With the new fall season on the major broadcast networks in full force, my DVR has plenty to keep it busy. New HD would be nice, but right now, there's plenty to watch.

And one more "thank you" shout out to D* for adding BBC-A and DYI (and the others) last quarter.
 
#9 ·
Alan Gordon said:
MY WISHLIST

  1. Lifetime Movie Network HD
    Overall, I only watch this channel around November/December, so with it being October,
    it's higher on my list than it might usually be.
I presume because of the Christmas movies? All Christmas movies made by Lifetime (and/or broadcasted by Lifetime) will also show on the regular Lifetime network in the Christmas period, so you don't have to worry about missing them in HD.
 
#12 ·
maartena said:
I presume because of the Christmas movies? All Christmas movies made by Lifetime (and/or broadcasted by Lifetime) will also show on the regular Lifetime network in the Christmas period, so you don't have to worry about missing them in HD.
You are correct regarding the reasons, but... that hasn't always been the case... is that new?!

Either way, only the first two channels are really a sense of frustration on my part... I just included LMN on the list as it's one I'd like to have...

~Alan
 
#13 ·
Santi360HD said:
anyone check out Swanni's page on D* touting all channels will be in HD in 2016?

does the cliche' of soon...truly have an end-date?
Swanni has a story about DirecTV on his website that didn't come from DBSTalk?! :eek:

~Alan
 
#14 ·
I'll go for H2/IFC since they were on the 2011 top 10 wants list..so I'm hoping they're on the radar somewhere..

my reach out of the top 10 would be Sundance

and honorable mentions for ID..




I'll pass on the PMS channel of LMN..we have enough depressing channels. Last I need is one more for my girl to watch and start up sh__ with me over some nonsense she saw on there..

Also..isnt IndiePlex & RetroPlex on the dotted line somewhere for D??*.. Kinda like when D* signed fresh ink for ESPNU and it came about a year later?
 
#15 ·
Swanni said:
all standard-def channels would be converted to HDTV by 2016 using local-into-local Ka-Band capacity.
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Swanni said:
He added that with standard-def transmissions converted to high-def, it would free up 1 gigahertz of satellite spectrum for upcoming Ultra HD signals, now better known as 4K.
Does anyone else think it's weird that they're implying the KU signals will be used for 4K and the KA birds will be used for HD?

~Alan
 
#18 ·
Alan Gordon said:
You are correct regarding the reasons, but... that hasn't always been the case... is that new?!
No, not new. It's just that Lifetime Movie Network might show em first, and they pretty much rinse, repeat Christmas movies 24/7, whereas on the Lifetime Network they may show each movie only once with no or fewer repeats.

I do believe however the movies shown are the same, you just run a lot higher chance of catching them on LMN as they repeat them 24/7.

The quality of Lifetime Christmas movies has been dismal since 2010 or so.... they older productions from the early 2000s are much better in storyline/quality - it seems they ran out of good Christmas stories. Maybe the 2012 productions will be better, but the 2010 and 2011 movies were really, really bad and cheesy. Nevertheless, I like my Christmas goo in December. Let's just hope they bring back some quality.
 
#19 ·
maartena said:
No, not new. It's just that Lifetime Movie Network might show em first, and they pretty much rinse, repeat Christmas movies 24/7, whereas on the Lifetime Network they may show each movie only once with no or fewer repeats.

I do believe however the movies shown are the same, you just run a lot higher chance of catching them on LMN as they repeat them 24/7.
Back in 2010, there was a Christmas movie that aired on LMN, but never on Lifetime... unless the guide data was incorrect. After my Grandmother died on Halloween last year, the holiday season was kind of a blur to me, so I honestly don't remember if LMN had anything new that Lifetime did not... or even what Lifetime had at all.

Sometimes like to go back and watch some of the older ones, and it's not unusual for Lifetime Movie Network to air one repeatedly, but Lifetime may not air it but once or twice during the season... sometimes on Christmas day or the like, so it would be a welcome addition, but I won't really be upset either.

Hopefully Ion will have some new ones this year as well.

~Alan
 
#21 ·
Alan Gordon said:
If quoted accurately by Swanni, Philip Goswitz must have meant "CONUS" Ka band capacity, not "local into local."

.... Does anyone else think it's weird that they're implying the KU signals will be used for 4K and the KA birds will be used for HD?

~Alan
Yes, particularly when transponder bandwidth for the DBS Ku band has long been established by international agreement at only 24 MHz for our region (ITU's AP 30/30A Region 2 Plan).

Unless they plan on changing the rules or something, they're contemplating to try and squeeze 4k TV through that?

Won't get many channels ...
 
#22 ·
HoTat2 said:
If quoted accurately by Swanni, Philip Goswitz must have meant "CONUS" Ka band capacity, not "local into local."
Yeah... I suspected that was the case, or PG has no idea what he's talking about.

HoTat2 said:
Yes, particularly when transponder bandwidth for the DBS Ku band has long been established by international agreement at only 24 MHz for our region (ITU's AP 30/30A Region 2 Plan).

Unless they plan on changing the rules or something, they're contemplating to try and squeeze 4k TV through that?

Won't get many channels ...
Using HVEC, what are your estimates/predictions on the difference between KU vs. KA?!

~Alan
 
#23 ·
Alan Gordon said:
... Using HVEC, what are your estimates/predictions on the difference between KU vs. KA?!

~Alan
Might work, requiring all new equipment on both ends of course.

But the High Efficiency Video Coding ("HEVC") standard is new and all on paper as a draft standard. I'd have to see it in action first outside of vaporware.

I mean half the bit rate of (AVC/H.264) MPEG 4 with no perceptible loss in PQ?

I'll frankly believe it when I see it.
 
#24 ·
alnielsen said:
Here's my wish list:
MavTV
H2
Encore Action
Encore Drama
I wish VH1C was broadcast in HD
I wouldn't argue about adding more Encore in HD, but if I had a choice between that and adding the Epix channels, I'd take the Epix group. Different studio represented in the newest releases from what the other premiums have.

And Reelz, if it ever actually goes HD all the time would be welcome for some of their original series.
 
#25 ·
HoTat2 said:
Might work, requiring all new equipment on both ends of course.

But the High Efficiency Video Coding ("HEVC") standard is new and all on paper as a draft standard. I'd have to see it in action first outside of vaporware.

I mean half the bit rate of (AVC/H.264) MPEG 4 with no perceptible loss in PQ?

I'll frankly believe it when I see it.
I believe it's been demo'ed. Supposedly... the first products are supposed to hit next year.

~Alan
 
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