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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Sep 24, 2012.

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  1. Oct 3, 2012 #101 of 808
    georule

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    I dunno on that one.

    I'm not expecting 4k to knock my socks off the way 1080p vs SD does. But I haven't seen it in person yet, so reserve the right to change my mind later.
     
  2. Oct 3, 2012 #102 of 808
    maartena

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    It is said that for the human eye to notice the difference, you would need a 60" or bigger TV. Now the future might have wall size TV's for us in store (or walls that ARE TV's), who knows.... we'll have to wait and see.

    But I can see someone that just bought a 72" 4K TV in 2016 complaining about it. :D
     
  3. Oct 3, 2012 #103 of 808
    maartena

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    I agree. Looking at the history, the first HDTV broadcast that was really seen nationwide (and not in peoples homes) was coverage of John Glenn's return to space in 1998. For 4k, it was the 2012 London Olympics where Oxford University in cooperation with a Japanese University tested worldwide delivery (in this case from London to Japan) of live 4k sport events.

    It really wasn't until 2002 until commercial carriers started carrying national channels in HD, and in 2006 - 8 years after the first proper test - most cable and satellite companies had no more than 25 HD channels.

    If the same happens with 4k, 2016 would be a good target date for the first channels to be launched in 4kHD, but I don't see it growing that fast. Perhaps, by 2020, we will also have 25 4kHD channels.

    Price, as always, will determine the the growth of 4kHD. Regular HD didn't start to become popular until HDTV's became affordable. I bought my 40" for $1200 in 2008, and I can buy a 40" for HALF that now with the same and better features. There is a line to cross, the line where mass production has become affordable and thus the price of the units drops to a "comfort zone" level for people to go out and buy a new TV for Christmas.
     
  4. Oct 3, 2012 #104 of 808
    hdtvfan0001

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    Having seen multiple 4K HDTV units at CES back in January...it's fair to day that seeing it will likely knock the socks off people.

    That said...it still comes down to the content. It takes a ton of bandwidth to broadcast 4K, which is why the next generation Blu Ray or similar units will be the first likely signs of 4K in the market.

    The demos at CES mostly showed 1080p content on side-be-side 1080p/4K displays...and you could easily see the difference - but it was less dramatic. One demo showed 4K content on a 4K HDTV and 1080p unit nearby - and 4K was stunning in comparison.
     
  5. Oct 3, 2012 #105 of 808
    oldcrooner

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    ....And according to a BBC WS report this week, NHK is already experimenting with 8K which offers definition 16 times higher than the current 1080p. :)
     
  6. Oct 3, 2012 #106 of 808
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    4K is at the movies today and it's better then old film.
     
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    But aren't some older movies being scanned in at 8k? It depends more on the quality of the film and restoration process than anything.
     
  8. Oct 3, 2012 #108 of 808
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    Would a difference be seen at a normal living room viewing distance for say a 55" or 65" set?
     
  9. Oct 3, 2012 #109 of 808
    Alan Gordon

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    I see PPV channels being among the first to launch... maybe a demo feed as well...

    ~Alan
     
  10. Oct 3, 2012 #110 of 808
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    So when did this turn into the 2016 anticipation thread? ;)
     
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    maartena

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    Since SatelliteRacer hasn't been dropping some hints with regards to Q4. :D
     
  12. Oct 3, 2012 #112 of 808
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    When will the 4k anticipation start.:)
     
  13. Oct 3, 2012 #113 of 808
    Chrismon1001

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    IMAX Film can be scanned up to 16k resolution. Most 65mm films get scanned at 8k and things like Disney classics. With most other things coming in at between 4-8k depending on the importance, and who is doing the restoration work.
     
  14. Oct 3, 2012 #114 of 808
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    With so many changes, going forward, one has to wonder when the best time will be to buy a new television set. I remember when 720p/1080i came out and people thought that would be the standard, going forward. A few years later, 1080p. Blu Ray/HD DVD seemed to sort out the direction, when Blu Ray won the format war, because of more memory on their disk. So now we're coming to the point of better, or should I say the ability to up the compression in the datastream, so you can cram more information per transponder. It's a long way, from the MPEG2 days, when they could put two HD channels per transponder.
     
  15. Oct 3, 2012 #115 of 808
    SomeRandomIdiot

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    I cannot see Ultra HD with H.264. Would probably require H.265 which would drop the 25 Mbps in half....or less as technology evolves.

    Also point out that BSwammi always repeats what he is told and isn't very good at weeding out the trial balloons from reality.

    Let's not forget that HBO stated in 1986 that they would have a fulltime HD Channel up by 1988 (Analog HD via a BUD).

    Obviously, that never happened.

    A lot can happen in 4 years.
     
  16. Oct 4, 2012 #116 of 808
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    Anticipating:


    H2HD
    TWCSNHD
    COOKHD
     
  17. Oct 4, 2012 #117 of 808
    skylab

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    If twc sportsnet is picked up, will they carry college basketball games already carried by twc sports regionals? For example, i think marquette has some games on tw sports. Not interested otherwise.
     
  18. Oct 4, 2012 #118 of 808
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    OVER at advanced tv website they say there will be 137 ULTRA HD CHANNELS by 2017!! and starting next year 2013 there will be 5 ulta hd channels!:hurah:
     
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    georule

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    I've had 7 HDTV since 2001, 4 of them 55" or bigger. So I'm in the demo for 4k. Not saying I won't be able to notice a difference. Just saying I'm not convinced the difference will be such as to make me refuse to watch "old" 1080/720 channels in the way that I largely refuse to watch SD channels today.
     
  20. Oct 4, 2012 #120 of 808
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    Maybe there is nothing upcoming to hint about :)
     
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