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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. Nov 9, 2010 #2241 of 4034
    Tulsacoker

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    One should see a better image on the 1440 x 1080i vs. the 704 x 480i in your analogy. Yes the "screen is drawn" very fast but where you can tell the difference is in the details. Especially on larger displays.
     
  2. Nov 9, 2010 #2242 of 4034
    lparsons21

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    All nice technical reasons. But I've had both D* and E* and while I can tell the difference, I would be hard pressed to say one was better than the other, and even then it would be minimally better.
     
  3. Nov 9, 2010 #2243 of 4034
    Jason Whiddon

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    It's fairly easy for me to tell the difference, and Directv does look better. Why is this being discussed here again?
     
  4. Nov 9, 2010 #2244 of 4034
    sigma1914

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    I think it's due to continued trolling by some Dish subs.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2010 #2245 of 4034
    Jason Whiddon

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    Man, I sure hope the time around 11/17 at least brings some news. Luckily, I just bought a Roku XDS, so Im enjoying Luther, Top Gear and Walking Dead in nice HD.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2010 #2246 of 4034
    mdavej

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    I can't tell any difference on my 60" screen from 10'. HD-lite is a non-issue for me because it beats the heck out of SD and is indistinguishable from full HD (to my middle-aged eyes anyway). The fact remains that Dish has many of the most anticipated channels with excellent PQ. If those are more important to you than certain RSN's and ST, then you should switch.

    Die-hard D* loyalists are never going to be swayed no matter how much Dish subs gloat about having all the channels they want (call it trolling if you wish). So it's really pointless to keep posting about it in this thread.

    I guess we keep rehashing it because there's not much else to talk about. What I don't understand is why those who are perfectly content with their D* channel lineup continue to post in this thread. They have nothing to anticipate.
     
  7. Nov 9, 2010 #2247 of 4034
    DaveC27

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    Being a week away tomorrow hopefully we might see some testing, but SR's silence I suspect not :confused:
     
  8. Nov 9, 2010 #2248 of 4034
    Jason Whiddon

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    For me, it's like comparing mpeg4 sat locals on Directv vs OTA. Directv looks good, but I can see a softness when comparing to OTA. Same goes for Dish vs Directv. As soon as I hit 50"'s, it started getting easier for me to see. At Satguys, the huge pro Dish site, many of the old timers that have recently switched have noted the same thing. I've been arguing the point for 2 years now, and it's good to see that others are starting to speak up.


    Anyways, Ill listen to my recommendation and drop the subject. Cmon Satracer, give us some news!
     
  9. Nov 9, 2010 #2249 of 4034
    Jason Whiddon

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    He's been VERY quiet.
     
  10. Nov 9, 2010 #2250 of 4034
    georule

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    So by that arguement 1080p sucks because it isn't an ATSC standard. DirecTV sucks because they don't use ATSC to deliver content.

    Or, maybe, ATSC has a specific use (broadcast) and getting outside that context using ATSC as a reference is arguing over which oranges make the best vegetable.

    Somewhere I recall reading that the "HD" standards had been defined for various uses where only lines of vertical resolution would be counted, and DISH was not the only one to take advantage of that fact.

    Which doesn't make their implemention as good as a higher-res implemention.

    Edit: Btw, DISH customers don't get a special DISH-supplied TV with their sub, do they? Because if not, clearly a standard is being successfully met to allow a wide range of consumer sets to show their picture.
     
  11. Nov 9, 2010 #2251 of 4034
    Richierich

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    Where's Sat Racer???
     
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    slimoli

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    Watching AMC-HD on Dish.:D
     
  13. Nov 9, 2010 #2253 of 4034
    lparsons21

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    Bazinga!! :lol:
     
  14. Nov 9, 2010 #2254 of 4034
    cypherx

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    Ah ok. My main TV is only 42" so it looks great at my viewing distance. One day I do want to upgrade to a larger TV, but there's no point in spending that kind of money if DirecTV doesn't offer a lot of the channels we would want to watch in HD.

    The SD on DirecTV is so 'muddy'. It's very blurry and dark. If I switch to the QAM tuner, what few digital QAM channels I get through the cable line are much clearer. Although the TV is getting them at 480i, whereas my TV will not accept 480i over HDMI. It will only do 480p, 720p and 1080i. Trying to send 480i causes an "unsupported mode" banner on the TV. So I did have native on and 720p and 1080i checked off, but I just recently checked off 480p for less of a conversion -if you will - to see if it made a difference. SD still looks really out of focus and washed out (both contrast and color definition). I think the SD on Cable looks better. They are sending 10 to 12 SD channels down 38.8mbps pipe at MPEG2. I'm not sure how many channels they cram on a single transponder with DirecTV, and what the bitrate of a single transponder is, but they sure could use more efficient encoders with variable bit rate statistical multiplexing along with dual pass pre and post image processing. Sure it delays the feed by 30 seconds or so, but it's worth it to better manage transponder space. Basically you can fit more while maintaining quality, or keep the same amount but improve the quality. There's quite a few vendors that make that equipment, and they should invest in it if they just want crap SD. RGB networks, Motorola, Cisco, Imagine Communications, Big Band, Arris and a few others.
     
  15. Nov 9, 2010 #2255 of 4034
    Garry

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    And your response(s) are even funnier.
     
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    cypherx

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    Well lookie what I get with a Cable QAM Scan. I get all of the HD Networks(CBS,NBC,FOX,MyNetwork,PBS,ABC), their standard lineup, 45 music choice channels, CSPAN1 & 2 in HD, QVC in HD, and a local channel WFMZ 69 in HD (which DirecTV doesn't carry in HD).

    If only they could unencrypt the rest like DIY network, E!, Style, We, etc... That'll never happen! At least its a little supplement and I'll use it when there's rain fade or the DVR is tied down with 2 recordings and I want to watch a 3rd (unencrypted) show.
     
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    freerein100

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    A light bulb uses a filament that heats up causing it to glow thus giving off visible and invisible light. I have not heard of digital light bulbs yet, though I guess that is what an LED is but they are dc driven.
     
  18. Davenlr

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    Actually a diode is an AC device, passing current in only one direction. Like a check valve on a two way water supply line. Of course, they work fine with DC as well, as long as the polarity is connected correctly to be inline with the PASS direction.
     
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    11.10.2010 (after 7 a.m. ET): No national high-definition additions today.
     
  20. Cable_X

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    Two shows right now (to me, so it's my opinion) that look good to watch are Luther on BBCA and The Walking Dead on AMC. I tried watching both in the "box" and even stretched the resolution, without much luck. I don't complain (really doesn't do much good), but if Directv could at least show one of those on The 101 until AMC-HD and BBCA-HD is brought to us.
     
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