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DirecTV HD GUI Anticipation

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by cypherx, Mar 31, 2011.

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  1. jasondm4

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    Also another thing i hope they update which they usually do but not all of them is the channel logos. They update certain ones quite often in software updates but some never even get a logo like BET HD and a few others.
     
  2. Laxguy

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    Until others have mentioned this, I've paid scant attention to logos. The ones I looked at recently were new, small and Lo-Def.
     
  3. JoeTheDragon

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    odd that they updated some of the CSN's but not CSN CHI logo to have the channle name in the logo.
     
  4. Elganja

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    wow... why? this really pisses me off (i have 2 hr20's).
     
  5. Jeremy W

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    The HR20 uses the older BCM7038 chip (released in 2003) that cannot handle an HD GUI. The HR21/22/23 use the BCM7401 (released in 2006) which can handle an HD GUI. The HR24 is a different animal, with the -500 using a totally different chip and the -100 using an unknown Broadcom chip, however it's a safe bet that they both support an HD GUI.

    The reality is that the HR20 is almost five years old now, which is an eternity in the technology world. It's not surprising that it can't keep up with everything DirecTV is offering now.
     
  6. cypherx

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    I agree.. it's a nice way to see what channel your on at a glance (logos are more quickly recognizable than reading text). Like right now HBO Signature doesn't even have a logo, it just says HBOS.. in big letters.

    But you never see them in the guide, because there's no logo's next to the channel, or if your selected on one it's the cover art that appears at the top. I like Verizon's implementation where they are all visible. That helps me in a 500+ channel universe. It also helps with branding each network. I'm sure the networks are appreciative when their logo is visible as it's kind of subliminal advertising to their brand.
     
  7. Jeremy W

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    There's nothing subliminal about sticking a network's logo on the screen. :lol:
     
  8. jpl

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    Since it's my job or something :) I figured I'd give some response to this. First, I like the joke. Second, realize that that IMG You Tube video is a simulation. It's not the real thing. The s/w does have some of the animation moves that you see, but I think they're exaggerated in the YouTube video. Some of the stuff is downright wrong (e.g. when you go to the Chapter List for a recording, the playback pauses - it doesn't keep playing like that), and of course it's more fluid-looking in the YouTube video than in reality (not to mention the fact that if you have their older hardware, e.g. the QIP-6416 DVR, the s/w is pretty slow).

    Not trying to pan the s/w - it's a great release. I'm very happy with it. Just to put it in perspective. Also to those who commented that a guide is just a grid of data - yes, that's true. Just realize that 1.9 was designed to add functionality as well as pretty-up the guide. Much of that is functionality that you guys already have - stuff like DVR to DVR recording sharing and expandable external storage. Also, because of the new color palate, I find this guide much easier to read from a distance than the old.
     
  9. cypherx

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    LOL, right, well then how about this...
    Imagine buying a BMW and there's no BMW emblems ANYWHERE on the car! It just doesn't seem complete.

    Or what about buying some Nike's, but there's not a single Nike logo or branding on the shoes at all?

    To some logo's are eye candy, but when I look at that Fios IMG 1.9 GUI, I really like how they did the design. If the DirecTV HD UI is anything like the ipad app, as we are pretty sure on... then it will have those nice graphical touches like more visible logo's. In iTunes, the second picture of the iPad app shows logo's next to each channel name/number.

    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-app-for-ipad/id421547368?mt=8
     
  10. Rich

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    When have you ever had a "humble" opinion?.........:lol:

    Rich
     
  11. hdtvfan0001

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    Humbly lots of times. :D
     
  12. Rich

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    And yet the 20-700s handle my huge Playlist much better than the 24s do. I don't get that. Just last night, I had to switch from a 24-500 to a 20-700 to go thru just a portion of my Playlist without waiting for the 500 to process the remote control commands.

    I know I have a huge Playlist that none of the HRs were built to cope with. I know that's my fault. But the 20-700s do handle the Playlist better.

    Rich
     
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    My knowledge of Java is fairly basic, other than that it is full of security holes and I generally avoid installing it unless I have to, then deal with the updates.

    But if Java wasn't meant to run on embedded systems, then why would there be a Java SE for Embedded? When I have installed it, a splash screen talked about Java being in Blu-Ray players and cars.
     
  14. dpeters11

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    Once an HD GUI comes out, DirecTV had better have some sort of solution for replacement receivers, at least not sending out HR20s. Lack of local 3D playback isn't a big for the average customer yet, but if they go from an HD GUI to the one now, the average customer won't be happy. The GUI is something that a lot of people are pretty sensitive to.
     
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    The HR-20 has a 2 chip solution (BCM7411 Decoder / BCM7038 Processor). The HR-21 and above have the single chip BCM7401 solution. The BCM7038 is actually a more powerful processor than the BCM7401 integrated CPU, but as Jeremy pointed out, it can't render graphics at an HD resolution.

    The BCM7401 was desinged as a lower-cost, easier to deploy, solution. Performance is not one of it's advantages.

    Think of it as having 2 pcs side by side, #1 is a Dual-Core pentium with a 256MB PCI VGA card. #2 is an older Pentium4 with an on-board 1GB DVI video port.

    #2 can generate better looking graphics, but everything else will be slower.
     
  16. joed32

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    I have 3 HR20s and wouldn't get rid of them just for a different grid.
     
  17. Jeremy W

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    If there is no provision for the HR20 to have a similar GUI, I expect that DirecTV will no longer be using it as a replacement receiver. Which is a possibility that I think is quite likely.
     
  18. Shades228

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    I think it will be similiar to the H20-100 where they get used in specific cases. Like a customer who just wants 1 HD DVR only or something like that.
     
  19. Jeremy W

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    Possibly, but the H20's GUI isn't radically different from the other HD receivers. In this case, the HR20 (and the H20, actually) would have a totally different GUI. DirecTV has been very big on uniformity, I don't know if they'd want to support two different GUIs on HD receivers.
     
  20. Shades228

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    They will still have 2 GUI's one SD and one HD. I also said only 1 HD DVR so no other HD on the order. This means that a customer wouldn't see a difference unless they ordered another HD receiver. If they ever got it replaced and they got a new GUI it's a win for the customer getting something "better" at no cost.

    Normally I would agree with you but seeing the back and forth with the H20-100 I would say they would find a way to use them rather than EOL them like they should have done with the 20-100.
     
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