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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q2 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Mar 22, 2010.

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  1. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    If TiVo were smart, they would have developed their code so that all they needed was an abstraction layer to be able to port it onto almost any chipset.
     
  2. Alan Gordon

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    While I may not fully agree with Steve's assessment regarding the porting of the software to the HR21/22/23, I'm in total agreement with his Comcast statement.

    As for Sixto's comment, unless the HR24 starts to differentiate itself from the rest of the HR2x line, I imagine the HR24 will have very little impact upon the success (or lack of) of the new DirecTiVo.

    That being said, I've always believed ANY new MPEG4 DirecTiVo would be a "niche" product for those who require more than what the HR2x currently offers. The longer time goes by without a new TiVo, any potential impact it may have had gets smaller... as those who require more may get used to doing without... particularly with the promise of extra fees associated with the new TiVo.

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  3. Steve

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    Agree.

    TiVo dropped the ball early on, IMHO. If, back in the early 2000's, co-founders Barton and Ramsay focused on software instead of hardware and provided an app that every cable or sat provider could use for free on their DVR hardware platform of choice, in return for say $1/month/subscriber household to cover support costs, they'd not only be the dominant DVR provider in the market today, but they'd be pretty darned profitable as well, wouldn't you think?
     
  4. Steve

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    You can look it up. :) TiVo Series 3 is based on the same chipset as the HR20. TiVo HD is based on the same chipset as the HR21-23's.
     
  5. Skyboss

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    Might be the only real game in town had they done this, regardless the platform.
     
  6. Steve

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    Yup. There would have been much less financial incentive for any MSO to invest millions in essentially re-inventing the wheel.
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    Not what I was disagreeing with. ;)

    It's been a rumor for some time that TiVo and "interactive features" don't mesh well. I don't know if there's any truth to it or not, BUT I imagine TiVo would have quite a bit of work to do in order to support the interactive features that DirecTV offers.

    In other words, if they were doing a simple HR10-250 port, it would be fine, but with them meshing stand-alone TiVo features along with DirecTV features, it wouldn't be a simple "port job".

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  8. kiljoy

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    I'll admit my interest has waned considerably and I probably won't go for this box when (if?) it ever comes along but for a different reason. Namely, if this Allvid gateway actually becomes a reality on the timetable the FCC has put out, it would make specialized boxes such as this a much poorer investment. Granted, that's a pretty big if, but given the potential for it there just really isn't an incentive to move to a box with unproven firmware that's locked to a specific provider if three years down the road I'll be able to buy or build a box that can do *exactly* what I want and be compatible with any kind of service I want to use.

    I can't wait to abandon DirecTV's DVRs but if Allvid actually does come to fruition then it would seem to me that I could keep DirecTV without needing to wait for TiVo or anyone else to make a box that serves my needs.

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  9. Deezul

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    My big reason for holding onto one HR10 was the Closed Captioning staying on for FF1. I mainly watch shows on the Big 4 Networks. But sometime last year, FF1 stopped working on my ABC and CBS feeds. When it works on my NBC feed, it mutes the sound then sometimes does FF1 and other times just stays at the normal speed. Only Fox is successful on FF1, and right now I'm not watching a lot of Fox shows.

    As soon as I can find the HR24 at a Best Buy (Reward zone points!) I'll call up D* and see what kind of upgrade deal they will give me. Just give me a $200 credit or something, and I'm signing up. I have HR20s, so I still have boxes with OTA reception.
     
  10. Alan Gordon

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    DirecTV no longer does this! :mad:

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  11. Deezul

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    Hmm. I got one replaced, and I'm near my two year commitment end. I'll have to call and see if they will give me a deal to stay. If I can get them to give me $10 a month off for a year, I'd probably still do it. The HD size is the big incentive on the HR24, especially since my wife and I have gone recording crazy.
     
  12. Bigg

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    My bet is a box like the premiere, but with the pay portion of the internet content replaced with DoD.

    Given DirecTV's push for MRV, it will probably support MRV and have built-in DECA. I don't think it will be an HR2x series box, I think it will be distinctly TiVo hardware and run highly proprietary software compared to the HR2x boxes.

    Granted, I'd never want one, TiVo can go screw themselves after they maliciously went after Echostar with that absurd patent infringement BS.
     
  13. Jeremy W

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    Well, you'll need to wait for someone to make a box that serves your needs. :lol:
     
  14. kiljoy

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    I suppose there's some truth in that but I can build a HTPC coupled with a server for very little. I like building PCs and I've done the HTPC route before. Given what TiVo is trying to do (and failing) in the Premiere, it's really a no-brainer.

    That said, DirecTV has really started to impress me with the direction they're moving with the whole home DVR concept and if they can make it reliable and more enjoyable to use, maybe I'll end up with more DirecTV equipment. The fact that there will be a multitude of options from DIY solutions to pre-built ones would make me extremely happy as I really like DirecTVs programming and infrastructure, I just don't like the HR-2x experience. This would be the best of all worlds.

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  15. bonscott87

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    Well, you're right about MRV and DECA most likely being included. But you're totally wrong on your other bets since they've already been shot down.

    1) Tivo CEO has already stated a couple times that the new DirecTivo HD will *not* use the Premier UI. It will be the same old classic Tivo UI that has been with us for a decade.
    2) It will be built on DirecTV hardware. The only thing we don't know is if it will be based on the HR21/22/23 or the HR24.
     
  16. Stuart Sweet

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    MRV, I tend to think so. Built-in DECA.... I think not.
     
  17. Alan Gordon

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    While it's certainly been made clear that the new DirecTiVo will NOT be the Premiere UI, I'm not convinced it will be the same UI as before. I half expect to see a DirecTV variation of the ComcasTiVo. :(

    No reasons to believe so. Just my personal belief.

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  18. Stuart Sweet

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    Mr. Gordon, I think you're probably right in that assessment.
     
  19. Bigg

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    That's right, I forgot about that. I still can't see it on D* hardware though. TiVo has it's own brand, with it's own boxes. If it's really just another version of ComcrapTiVo then it will be a major FAIL.
     
  20. Stuart Sweet

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    Mr. Bigg... I think you may be on to something with your last statement ;)
     
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