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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q2 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Mar 22, 2010.

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  1. Alan Gordon

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    ... and completely left out what I like about it... :)

    NOTE: Just wanted to add that....

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  2. say-what

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    Sorry, I don't interact much with my brother's TIVO anymore outside of changing channels if I can avoid it - helped him set them up a few years back and then networked them - I just find the HR2x much easier to use. I didn't have problems transitioning from TIVO to HR2x, but certainly have the opposite experience whenever I try to do anything other than basic usage of my brother's TIVO. That's as specific as I'll get because quite frankly, after 4 years of not using TIVO exclusively, I'm not going to try to use the TIVO extensively enough to compile a more detailed description.
     
  3. djrobx

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    I realize TiVo premiere is coming that may finally address some of this but:

    1) Agonizingly slow season pass priority adjustment
    2) Ads plastered all over the UI and pop up while fast forwarding through programs.
    3) No PiG
    4) After years of begging, still no free space meter. REALLY TiVo? Shameful.

    IMO, TiVo created something very special, but they lost their way around version 3 of their software. It seems like the focus shifted to making the box into a revenue generator, and the core functionality went essentially stagnant.

    At this point TiVo doesn't offer me anything that I don't already have from my HR24. DirecTV has succeeded where most other "in house" cable DVRs have failed - DirecTV steadily updates and refines their UI. Performance (particularly with MRV) was my only major problem with the HR2x series and the HR24 hardware seems to have addressed that.

    That's not to say the HR24 is perfect. TiVo just needs to do more - a LOT more - if they want me to pay a premium for it.
     
  4. Tallgntlmn

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    The thing is that DirecTV probably will NOT ALLOW it to do more. I'd venture to guess no Netflix, Youtube, TiVo2Go, etc will be on the HD-TiVo.
     
  5. Steve

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    Hopefully no ad prompts during FF either. :)
     
  6. tonyd79

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    Or ads on just about every screen you bring up....

    BTW, just about all those things that Tivo brings to the table (Netflix, You Tube, etc) can be had for one simple purchase price of a Roku box. Why pay Tivo all that money for that functionality when it is cheaper and easier to use on the Roku? No additional subscription needed.
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    Aside from the Thumbs Up to record an advertised program, a feature that I actually like, I don't have this on my Series 3...

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  8. Steve

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    Just following up on djrobx's observation above.
     
  9. tonyd79

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    I never saw them either on my HD Tivo. I did see thumbs up for things other than recording advertised programs (like cars, the like) but never saw the commericials the interrupt the FF itself although according to some who saw them on tivocommunity, they do exist.

    But Tivo did become too ad laden. When it was just on Tivo Central (which I almost never went to), I didn't care but they were on pause. they were on the list screen, they were in groups of programs and even when I deleted a program.
     
  10. Alan Gordon

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    I knew... but I really don't get the hate.

    Aside from the little icon in the corner asking me if I want to record a program being advertised, a feature that I've found handy from time to time, I think I might have experienced one other advertisement... namely a pop-up in the upper right corner telling me to hit Thumbs Up if I wanted more information about a car. I disregarded it...

    Sure there's an advertisement on the TiVo Central/DirecTV Central page, but I honestly don't pay any attention to it.

    Yeah, there's also some within the Playlist folders, but I honestly don't pay much attention to it... and deem it to be no more obtrusive than the banner ads on the Guide on the HR2x (aside from the multiple back to back ones in the PPV areas... which are hidden thanks to my Favorites list).

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  11. Steve

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    This is from an April '09 New York Times article (my bolding):

    "In December, TiVo began offering ads that appear as a small piece of text when viewers pause a show. Advertisers can choose the specific show or genre they want their pause ad to appear on — Mercedes-Benz USA used it to promote a new car during football games earlier this year. TiVo also offers ads that appear when viewers fast-forward through shows. Advertisers that run regular 30- or 60-second spots can buy these, and when the viewer presses fast-forward, a static box appears. One for Tourism Australia shows a photograph of a girl on a beach with the text, exclaiming, “Don’t tell me I just skipped the Australia ad!” TiVo viewers are instructed to press the Thumbs Up button to see the ad and get more information. [more]"

    If they're not being seen, it's possible advertisers are just not buying them anymore.
     
  12. tonyd79

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    IIRC, it was not on all Tivo boxes and there was something odd about how it was rolled out. I think it was only on Series 2 boxes or something strange like that. No idea if they are pursuing this on the Premiere.
     
  13. Steve

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    FWIW, this Engadget piece claims the 11.0c software brought ads to Series 3/HD models as well. Couldn't find anything on the Premiere, tho.
     
  14. tonyd79

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    Never saw them and now my Tivo is long gone.
     
  15. MysteryMan

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    Enlighten Me...Someone please tell me what the advantages are of a TiVo unit over a HR unit?
     
  16. Jeremy W

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    This question is not nearly as simple as you think it is, and you will not receive a satisfactory answer. You need to do your own research and figure out what the advantages and disadvantages are for you.
     
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    For me the HR series are superior to TIVO in many ways, but there are a few things that I really miss about my tivo that i would pay more for over the current HR.

    #1 is the guide, I have said this before, but I absolutely HATE the current guide on the HR units. I do a lot of guide surfing when trying to find something to watch or record. Even the online guide for Direct TV is horrible. This is the deal breaker right there for me. If DTV could come up with a better guide similar to what TIVO has I would never even think of getting a TIVO again. It doesn't even have to be HD, I could care less, I just want more lines of channels and more listings of the current channel I selected.

    The rest are just little things that I miss about my tivo

    No wish list, I shouldn't have to learn a new language just to setup auto records.

    NO suggestions, I know a lot of people don't like them but I found some shows i liked that I never would have thought to watch.

    There were times during a commercial or ad for a show that you could press the green button to auto record the show without having to search.

    Another annoying little thing with the current HR's are they take SO long to boot up and get picture, Sure the TIVO was pretty slow as well, but not anywhere near the time it takes the current HR. It should not take more than 2 or 3 minutes to boot up a DVR.

    Tivo2go, never was implemented officially on the DTV boxes, but I that was a feature I really really really enjoyed. I know DTV will probably block tivo from implementing it again, but it would be very nice!
     
  18. Jeremy W

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    Why are you rebooting so often that it matters?
     
  19. ffemtreed

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    I don't reboot that often other than Friday nights.

    its just very frustrating when you are watching a show and for some reason the box locks up or the power goes blips and you have to wait all that time missing your show for it to come back on. I have a UPS installed on my main TV room box, but not the others.
     
  20. Jeremy W

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    I have all of my DVRs on a UPS, and I can't remember the last time one of them locked up. Sorry, I just don't care about how long the box takes to reboot.
     
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