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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q2 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 16, 2011.

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  1. Apr 5, 2011 #41 of 879
    Doug Brott

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    There will be a new TiVo .. It's in testing now and will hopefully be qualified soon. Distribution may or may not be a problem, but we've seen it take a couple of months to get new HR2x models rolled out. It's hard to say with the TiVo as it may be special order anyway meaning all equipment is at a central location and shipped to the customer. In that situation, distribution could happen more quickly. No need to fill a larger supply chain.
     
  2. Apr 5, 2011 #42 of 879
    Doug Brott

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    If you want to blame DIRECTV go right ahead .. but when DIRECTV gets the equipment in their hands over a year late I just don't see how it makes sense. Certainly it's still prudent for DIRECTV to qualify this product since it's their name that will be attached (TiVo is the sub-contractor).
     
  3. Apr 5, 2011 #43 of 879
    somguy

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    Do we have any idea of what this new Directv TIVO will cost? Will there be a monthly or lifetime fee and if so how much? Will it be anything like the old HR10-250 old Directv TIVO DVR? Will it come in black? Any idea of what the specs will be like recording capacity, etc.? Shall we assume that like all other new Directv hardware and software to expect many issues with it, at least for the first 6 months? Any input I welcome and thank you for your time.
     
  4. Apr 5, 2011 #44 of 879
    Rich

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    I can't see how it could be competitive if it's much more expensive than a 24. And I don't expect to have a mind blowing experience using it. Will it have problems? The old ones had plenty of problems and little support, so...

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  5. Apr 5, 2011 #45 of 879
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    I'm guessing (totally pulling a number out of thin air here) that it will be an extra $3 to $5 per month.

    Would anybody pay $3 to $5 per month for the Tivo box? I sure as hell wouldn't.

    I *MIGHT* go an extra $1.99 *IF* it didn't have any deal breakers (FOR ME) and it supported the QWERTY remote.

    If it has a deal breaker and/or doesn't support the QWERTY remote, whats the point?

    You know, I just had an interesting idea... right now we pay $7/month for the HR2x boxes. Since the Tivo will be a stripped down version, maybe DTV will charge LESS???? Maybe $5 to $6? As in, if all you've got is Tivo DVRs, you pay $5 to $6 and if you have *any* HR2x's, you pay the full blown $7 + $3 if you get MRV.

    That makes sense to me... pay less for a less manly box.

    So of course, DTV won't do that :D.
     
  6. Apr 5, 2011 #46 of 879
    Richierich

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    Also, if you pay $3 to $5 a month there will be a one time Upfront Charge or probably $300 and then you won't get WHDVR Service Compatibility (Multi Room Viewing) so I think it will be a "YAWN" or a "Ho Hum" the New Directivo is here, Big Deal!!!

    Actually not a Big Deal!!! :D

    Too Bad but we will wait and see and at least this Thread will disappear!!! :lol:
     
  7. Apr 5, 2011 #47 of 879
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    Current bugs and glitches are being worked on. There is collaboration with both parties and when Tivo and Directv are happy with a final release candidate an official release will happen shortly after.
     
  8. Apr 5, 2011 #48 of 879
    jacmyoung

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    Does this mean it is currently still not ready and beta testing is still on-going?
     
  9. Apr 5, 2011 #49 of 879
    SledgeHammer

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    Beta testing has been going on for 3 yrs. Seriously. It was announced in 2008 and has been delayed millions of times since then.
     
  10. Apr 5, 2011 #50 of 879
    Jeremy W

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    Stripped down compared to what?
     
  11. Apr 5, 2011 #51 of 879
    Mike Bertelson

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    Compared to the HR series. Stripped down is probably a bit much but we do know there will be some features the HR's have that the DirecTiVo won't.

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  12. Apr 5, 2011 #52 of 879
    Davenlr

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    And hopefully they will add one (suggestions) which DirecTv has refused to add :)
     
  13. Apr 5, 2011 #53 of 879
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    I think cannot add. That is a TiVo only item, no?

    And a complete waste of one. Never worked for me. Always suggested things I already recorded.
     
  14. Apr 5, 2011 #54 of 879
    Davenlr

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    You didnt train it right. I did the thumbs up/down thing with mine for two weeks, and now its recording shows all day and night (got a 2TB drive in it), and its all stuff I would watch if I didnt have any life, but it catches at least two hours a day of things I do watch, and would have if I had known it was on. Probably not as good with a multiperson household, but works perfectly for me. And I believe DirecTv bought patent rights from Tivo several years ago, so I would think they could add it. Even SageTV DVR software for PC/Linux has it.
     
  15. Apr 5, 2011 #55 of 879
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    No they did not buy patent rights from TiVo. They bought Replay. They signed a non-sue agreement with TiVo.

    I trained it just fine. It is a weak algorithm and a dumb idea. Besides it should work by what you watch (which sets thumbs) not by working your butt off to tell it what to do.

    As for how weak it is, why would it suggest items already in my to do list. That is an indication of sloppy programming.

    Maybe my tastes were too eclectic for it. I watch various cartoons so it suggested the smurfs! Yuck! There was no judgement for quality or age group. No consideration for performers or directors just genres.

    I had three TiVos over many versions and suggestions almost never found anything for me that I didn't already know about.

    And, I hated having it record when I didn't tell it to. Very annoying to see the light on when I wasn't recording anything. I hated it and turned it off despite attempts to use it preriodically.
     
  16. Apr 5, 2011 #56 of 879
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    I'm with you. I hated suggestions and turned them off with every Tivo. I was given a brain and the ability to decide what to watch & record. ;)
     
  17. Apr 5, 2011 #57 of 879
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    Suggestions were quickly turned off on the two DTivos I had (R10, HR10). Didn't like the stuff it picked or the amount of space it tied up.
     
  18. Apr 5, 2011 #58 of 879
    Davenlr

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    Well, I see you guys dont like it. I do. At least I have a choice to turn it off rather than not having it at all. And it doesnt take up any space, as I would define space. No more space than random bytes on the drive. Scheduled recordings will always erase suggestions, and suggestions will never hamper your viewing and recording...they just kind of record in the background, like DirecTv's PPV movies, except those DO use up hard drive space you cannot use.

    I watch mainly news and science shows, which are plentifully spread across several channels. While my brain does select shows of interest to me, I work 10 hrs a day, and really dont have time to look through program schedules every night for 30 minutes, instead of watching the recordings.
     
  19. Apr 6, 2011 #59 of 879
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    The HR10-250 was over 9 months delayed from when Tivo said it was supposed to hit the market, so yes, Tivo has shown in the past that it is bad at meeting deadlines with directv (delays had to do with HD and getting OTA into the box to work properly with the guide data all in one interface, from what I understand) . in fact, I believe the original Directvio was also latter by a few months than anticipated. It also lacked dual tuners when it first shipped, and didn't get that till a latter software update.
     
  20. Apr 6, 2011 #60 of 879
    inkahauts

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    I have found that setting up a few good Boolean ARSLs are far more effective for me than auto record with tivo ever was...
     
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