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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. Jun 24, 2010 #1 of 765
    Stuart Sweet

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    Folks, there's precious little to say about the upcoming DIRECTV TiVo-based device that hasn't already been said, but here's the thread for you to say it.

    Ground Rules:
    • This is not a free-for-all. Rudeness will not be tolerated.
    • If you harp on a particular point to the exclusion of others, your posts may be deleted.


    Synopsis of common arguments: (in other words, this ground's already been trodden, do we have to go there again?)

    • Many people like the TiVo interface, especially the list guide.
    • Many people are equally fond of the DIRECTV interface.
    • Many people think that TiVos are easier for them to use.
    • Many people think that DIRECTV DVRs are easier for them to use.
    • Standalone TiVo devices have many features that are appealing to people.
    • No guarantee has been made that any feature from a standalone TiVo will make it to the DIRECTV TiVo.
    • The new device will run on DIRECTV hardware, although we don't know how that will work (we have some ideas).
    • TiVo, Inc. will develop the software for the device and seems to be solely responsible for the user experience.

    Further, we've learned that the new TiVo for DIRECTV will not have the upgraded user experience seen in the TiVo Premiere, and since the DIRECTV HR24-500 DVR has been released, there has been some question as to what DIRECTV platform will underpin the new TiVo.
     
  2. Jul 1, 2010 #2 of 765
    Stuart Sweet

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    ...and, commence anticipating!
     
  3. Jul 1, 2010 #3 of 765
    jdspencer

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    Possible rhetorical question.
    Will this unit support SWM and thus MRV?

    Personally, I'd have a problem going back to the TiVo experience. :)
     
  4. Jul 1, 2010 #4 of 765
    Stuart Sweet

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    I would think SWM would have to be supported. As for MRV, I'm not sure.
     
  5. Jul 1, 2010 #5 of 765
    naijai

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    Might be hard to support mrv since the tivo & dns software aren't similar but that could be the cause of the delay making them work together so customer can have mixed equipment in their home and still have all the services
     
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    joshjr

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    I dont see how they could release a HD DVR that was not compatible with SWM and MRV at this point.
     
  7. Jul 1, 2010 #7 of 765
    bonscott87

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    And to point out that the last official word on timeframe we have heard was the following:

    Tivo CEO a couple months ago reported it would hopefully be out by the end of the year.

    DirecTV a few weeks later said that they hope that Tivo will deliver a unit by end of 2010 or early 2011.

    That is all we know.
     
  8. Jul 12, 2010 #8 of 765
    KoRn

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    Vaporware. This thing is never coming. :nono2: Not a troll post. Just irritated on how it keeps getting "delayed".
     
  9. Jul 12, 2010 #9 of 765
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    I wouldn't say that until they've missed an explicitly promised delivery date. This is not a trivial undertaking, and it is not the only thing either company is busy with.
     
  10. Jul 12, 2010 #10 of 765
    bonscott87

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    Well, they have missed several delivery dates so far...
     
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    DogLover

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    Perhaps not "explicitly promised dates", but they have missed targeted estimated dates by so much that I do have to wonder if they will ever bring the box to market. (I also wonder if the box is finally released, whether they will sell enough to recoup their development costs.)
     
  12. Jul 12, 2010 #12 of 765
    rayik

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    Long time tivo user with cable before coming to D*. (Still have box with lifetime subscription).

    When I went back to D* I wanted the unreleased directv tivo and would have paid extra $ to get it.

    Having used an HR23-700 and an old Samsung directv tivo for 1 1/2 years, I no longer care about the unreleased D* tivo. Functionally the HR23 pretty much does everything tivo does except for suggestions and the list guide. To me, it is not worth an extra monthly fee to get those features. Even if there is no monthly fee, I would not spend any $ to "upgrade" boxes to the new D* tivo.

    To those looking forward to this unit, hopefully it will eventually be released and function as planned.
     
  13. Jul 12, 2010 #13 of 765
    Mike Greer

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    I had hoped to someday go back to an MPEG4 version of my old HD DirecTivo DVRs… In fact the announcement that a new Tivo would be available was a big part of my decision to go back to DirecTV. That was how many years ago? After all this time I gave up and just spent a small fortune on HR24s to fix my biggest complaint about DirecTV…. The HR22s that I got stuck with.

    Now that I’ve invested in the HR24s Tivo would have to give me the boxes for free (assuming they’ll ever be released) and then they’d have to waive the monthly fees before I’ll go there. Hopefully Tivo will be smart enough to realize they missed the boat and not spend any more cash on them. Too bad really – I would have purchased at least 2 of them a couple years back…
     
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    That woudl be a deal breaker for me right there, and IMO kill TiVo on Directv.
     
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    bicker1

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    That's the point. Until they explicitly promise a specific date, what they're saying is playing to a wide variety of audiences for a wide variety of reasons.

    Again, I wouldn't read much into the missed "targeted estimated dates". And with your parenthetical sentence, you hit on what I was referring to, above... part of what affects their schedule is when research indicates that it would be worthwhile ramping up production and actually selling the box. Myriad conditions could obstruct that.

    I would love to hear some real hard info, from inside sources, about how development is progressing; that's something I could trust.
     
  16. Jul 12, 2010 #16 of 765
    bonscott87

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    Well, when they explicitly tell their investors that it will be released end of 2009, I'd call that a pretty specific date.
    Then early 2010.
    Then again 2nd half 2010.
    And now late 2010/early 2011.

    All told to investors and at each investor meeting it gets pushed back it seems.

    So yes, they have given explicit dates to the investors, and you certainly don't want to steer them wrong.

    Unfortunately none of us will ever get this info.
     
  17. Jul 12, 2010 #17 of 765
    Doug Brott

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    I'm fairly confident in late 2010 or early 2011 ..
     
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    Doug Brott

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    My thoughts as well, but I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.
     
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    Doug Brott

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    Dates were missed .. any other way to look at it is embellishing the truth .. I consider myself a pretty good guesser ;)
     
  20. Jul 12, 2010 #20 of 765
    lee78221

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    If there is any I doubt you'll hear about it. Most, if not all of them would be under NDA.
     
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