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DIRECTV HD TiVo (THR22-100) Anticipation (Official Q311 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 26, 2011.

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  1. Sep 1, 2011 #801 of 1071
    Draconis

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    Still, those things are TBM (Too Bloody Much).

    You know, I'm very curious about the new TiVo. This waiting is just dragging on. I guess all will be reveled soon enough.
     
  2. Sep 1, 2011 #802 of 1071
    Jeremy W

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    I take it you've never owned one. I had the 880, now I've upgraded to the Harmony One. Fantastic devices.
     
  3. Sep 1, 2011 #803 of 1071
    TheFigurehead

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    My 1st dvr was a DTV Hughes 70GB sd tivo. Got it at BB and really liked it. But the HD option took me to a silver HR20 - 700 from CC, which became my primary DVR. Now have 4 HD DVR's and the old tivo is collecting dust. I've decided that if the THR22 is $99.00 I will go ahead and buy one. I would swap out one of my HR-21's and give the new HD TiVo a try. I've wasted a lot more money on worse things... (Anyone remember the VZW Hub???).

    The THR22 might totally suck... or, maybe it'll be a nice product after all? I am predicting it'll fall somewhere inbetween, but more than likely it'll be a decent DVR with TiVo software.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2011 #804 of 1071
    Diana C

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    My first DVR was the original DishPlayer (the WebTV based unit). In 2001 I switched to DirecTV specifically to get the Series 1 DirecTiVo. At one point, I had 4 DirecTiVos in use, all with expanded hard drive capacity, MRV turned on, backdoors open, and web interface installed. As you can see in my signature, I still have one of them running, hooked to legacy ports on my SWM.

    I was very reluctant to switch to the DirecTV HD DVR platform, but had no real choice when I got my first HDTV. It was rough back then...both in terms of the software's functionality and my adjusting to a new paradigm. Through it all, I have remained a fan of the TiVo interface, the peanut remote, and TiVo's innovations. Back when it was announced, I eagerly anticipated the release of a new HD DirecTiVo.

    However, now over 4 years in with the DirecTV DVRs, I find that I don't feel much anticipation any longer. I have grown accustomed to the DirecTV software, and the functionality of these DVRs has grown to the point that i have everything I need - MRV, remote programming, massive storage capacity and excellent reliability.

    In my opinion, it matters little what features the new THR-22 has...it is just too late for it to have much impact. Some subscribers will embrace it, but for most of us, it is simply a non-event.
     
  5. Sep 1, 2011 #805 of 1071
    wingrider01

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    do not think ti will be 99.00 - if anything it will start at 199.00 for the lease acquistion cost
     
  6. Sep 1, 2011 #806 of 1071
    mavs-fan

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    It will be interesting to see if at launch the DirecTivo is available for new subscribers as well as existing subs.
     
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    Tom Robertson

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    They would have to. Both TiVo and DIRECTV want as many of these sold. :)

    Now, there might be short times at the very beginning when only new customers might be able to get them or something like that. Only until stock was sufficient in the supply chain--though I don't expect that to be an issue with the TiVos.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  9. Sep 1, 2011 #809 of 1071
    harsh

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    Once TiVo delivers, DIRECTV will be on the hook for selling a bunch of units. To a large extent TiVo gets decent money whether DIRECTV sells them or not so DIRECTV should be motivated to get them out the door.
     
  10. Sep 1, 2011 #810 of 1071
    Mike Bertelson

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    On the hook how?

    What's the effect on DIRECTV if very few are sold?

    Mike
     
  11. Sep 1, 2011 #811 of 1071
    Jeremy W

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    That's exactly what I'm thinking. I can't imagine DirecTV is making very much money off of each THR22 they sell. And they've been paying Tivo the same amount of money for three years now, so what do they care?
     
  12. Sep 1, 2011 #812 of 1071
    pfp

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    If that's the case then why would they neuter them?
     
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    ATARI

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    I think you missed Tom's smiley-face.
     
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    Tom Robertson

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    Well... that is a good question.

    DIRECTV is required to ensure that the copy protection features are in any TiVo features. TiVo hasn't/can't/won't do that, at least not now.

    As for DIRECTV features such as MRV, that would be up to TiVo. I can see where there might be a few features TiVo would hesitate to put in their code base, but at the end of the day, when you service MSOs directly, you need to put the features they want in.

    (That said, I also understand the concept that TiVo needed to completely refresh their code base at some point. That would be a suitable reason to delay features.)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  16. Sep 1, 2011 #816 of 1071
    harsh

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    From the original MPEG4 DIRECTiVo thread we understand that DIRECTV is responsible for advertising and minimum monthly payments to TiVo. The way it was described by TiVo during a conference call was:
    From the SEC filing:
    The takeaway is that DIRECTV is on the hook for a "significant national marketing commitment" as well as escalating monthly minimum payments. Both of these costs would seem to be independent of the number of units installed.
     
  17. Sep 1, 2011 #817 of 1071
    Jeremy W

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    That's very different from
    As long as DirecTV makes the minimum payments and meets the "significant national marketing commitment" they've fulfilled their obligations to Tivo. Technically, they don't have to sell a single Tivo.
     
  18. Sep 1, 2011 #818 of 1071
    Stuart Sweet

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    Of course we don't know what "significant" means, do we.
     
  19. Sep 1, 2011 #819 of 1071
    RobertE

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    Perhaps the "signifcant" marketing is inversely purportional to the "significant" delay in getting this doorstop out the door.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2011 #820 of 1071
    andunn27

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    So are most people thinking $199? Also, I'm assuming this is to be leased and not owned. Will there be any way to purchase these (even at a higher cost) to actually own them?
     
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