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DIRECTV HD TiVo (THR22-100) Anticipation (Official Q4-11 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 28, 2011.

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  1. SledgeHammer

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    The government does this all the time :D.

    As has been discussed many times already, part of Tivo's legal settlement with DirecTV was the right (read: right, not obligation, requirement, etc) to make a new box. That box, whatever it is, has to meet DirecTVs quality standards. DirecTV would prefer the box never be released because it saves them a ton of money to only have to support a single platform. They were legally obligated to let Tivo try, but all they really need to do is continue saying "its not good enough" which is what they have been doing. For Tivo, its a back burner project as well because they know there is little interest at this point for a more EXPENSIVE box with LESS features on an OLD platform with an OLD OS. Current speculation has the box for $99 up front and $5/extra per month in Tivo fees on top of DVR and reciever fees.

    Remember, its not going to run the new HD Tivo software, its going to run the old HR10-250 software. Its also going to have built in OTA removed and its not going to have any of the newer features out of the box (unless Tivo has gone back and added them in).
     
  2. deardeva

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    tivo is "IN THE WORKS", know that for a fact, just a little more patience please....
     
  3. SledgeHammer

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    It's been "IN THE WORKS" for 3 or 4yrs now :rolleyes:.
     
  4. deardeva

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    I've actually seen one....
     
  5. sigma1914

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    Existing in testing is one thing; available to consumers is a whole other thing. ;)
     
  6. deardeva

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    wasnt in testing, they just havent released them yet, but they in fact exist, actually took a tour, at a directv site, that's where I saw it, no info on the release yet though, believe me I did ask....
     
  7. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    IMO, 'testing' means only available to a limited group such DirecTV employees and field testers.
     
  8. deardeva

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    I guess that's true Sigma, didnt even think of that
     
  9. inkahauts

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    Except that tivo wishlists never worked right, and there was no way to make them work right. At least with Directv DVRs I can make them work right. Tivo would never record all lakers games on a wishlist, and it sure didn't record just games. Never, not once. It was horrid. That's not to say I don't hate the CIG issue, I do. Its the biggest problem Directv has IMHO. Also, make sure you understand, those suggestions are more than channel work around, they are also to make sure you get only games and nothing else. Again, something Tivo can't do.
     
  10. inkahauts

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    I have had a ReplayTV, UltimateTV, DirectvTivo, and a Directv DVR, so I have had them all. Replaytv was the only unit that you can set a Series Record that would record only a particular program without regard for what channel it was on with ease. There is no way with tivo or ultimatetv at all. Directv DVRTs actually can do it, if you use a boolean search word.

    Example:

    AALL TRUE BLOOD TTITLE & Show Types & Series

    That will get you only programs from a series with the title true blood. You can add a channel limiter if there are other shows that contain those words in its title, and you only want to record it off say HBO, or make sure it never reocrds the HBOL channel.

    So actually, again, the directv dvr will do something that the tivo won't do, although still not as elegantly as the way ReplayTV did it. When you did a search for a show, you could choose to auto record it, or set a series recording for it. either one, so simple, so easy.
     
  11. bldxyz

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    I see no option to do that. When I set up a manual recording, it has the following options:
    • Record (Recurring)
    • Channel: 206 ESPNHD
    • When: Everyday
    • Start: 7:00 AM
    • Duration: 01hr00min

    The KeyWord search ones allow specification such, but not the Manual ones, as far as I can see.
     
  12. bldxyz

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    Well, I can't plug the old box back in and re-experience it to clarify, so I'll go ahead and take your word for it. Maybe it was something about how Wishlists worked that I'm remember.

    It is a couple years that I've been waiting to get back to Tivo, filled with false promises of "soon", and the entire time, I've been unhappy with the HR22. You can like your DTV software all you like, but you can't convince me that I'm happier now.
     
  13. TBlazer07

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    So have I. It was like 1999 all over again. :lol:
     
  14. bonscott87

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    Wishlists weren't channel specific (it was the whole point). Season pass is of course channel specific.

    Just like on the HR2x a series link is channel specific while an auto record search is not channel specific (like a whishlist) *however* you can very easily limit the channel range which makes it much more flexible then a wishlist on Tivo.

    And I agree on the sports issue. I had several DirecTivo's and they would *never* properly record my Red Wings with a wishlist. Games would be missed, it would record repeats of the games, would record on channels I didn't want because if found on two or more channels would automatically choose the lowest channel number, it would record other programs and not games (I could go on). Basically the Tivo was useless for this and I resorted to using the wishlist as a sort of "saved search" which I would manually check every week and choose what games to record. A pain.

    When the HR2x added boolean search in less then 2 minutes I created a boolean autorecord search which never missed a game and only recorded the live games, pre game and nothing else.
    AALL Red Wings Live NNOT Post CCHAN XXX
    Something very similar to this (it's been almost 2 years since I've had DirecTV so I apologize if it's not exact).

    And I'll just add the Uverse DVR does it even better then either Tivo or DirecTV. I've got a simple season pass to the Red Wings in the guide (two record button presses) and it never misses a game. Call me impressed.
     
  15. HoTat2

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    On a note here though;

    With the new HD-GUI, DIRECTV for whatever reasons has unfortunately chosen to reduce the maximum entry of characters in the Smart Search to 30 from the 50 it was previously. Therefore, and since every space counts as a character, long search strings like this to setup a very precise Boolean ARSL are no longer really possible once the new HD-GUI downloads.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    AALL RED WINGS EVENTS CCHAN XXX & Sports & Hockey

    is all he needs for the same thing with less words, and frankly, its even more exact.

    And evidently that limit is simply a bug they haven't fixed yet.
     
  17. HoTat2

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    But the OP didn't want any Red Wing post game stuff. Thus "NNOT POST" in his earlier string.

    So how can this shorter string be even better and more exact for what he wanted then?

    Certainly hope so, as it was a bad idea IMO if done intentionally.
     
  18. Herdfan

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    I "think" the poster is referring to the inability to set limits on how many shows to keep with manual recordings. If you do a manual daily recording, there is no way to set a flag to just keep 2 or 5 etc. TiVo has this and so did the HR's way back.

    They dropped it for some reason probably not even known to them.
     
  19. Herdfan

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    Is this new, because I don't think so. :confused:

    Are you saying you have a daily manual recording set up to record Show X every day? And you have the limit set to keep 1, so that Monday's records, when Tuesday's finishes recording, Monday's is deleted?
     
  20. bonscott87

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    The one I had grabbed both pre-game and the game itself and not post game shows. Reason is because the pre-game show is called "Red Wings Live" and the games itself had "live" in the guide data to indicate it wasn't a repeat. Thus just the additional keyword of "live" captured both. The post game show also had "live" in it's name thus the NNOT Post ("post" was in the guide data of the post-game show).

    This is a great example of knowing your guide data when setting up these searches to get exactly what you want.
     
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