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Directv HD - Upgrade will kill me.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Nightfall, Nov 6, 2007.

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  1. Jon J

    Jon J Grouch Extrordinaire

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    If you're going to suffer serious buyer's remorse if you don't do the Dish deal, you should jump on it. OTOH, the DTV deal is very attractive. ;)
     
  2. upnorth

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    Since these people are buying there gas at the station the station should give them a Free SUV.
    Of course you would have to commit to that station for 24 months.
    Oh ok maybe the station should charge them a monthly lease fee.;)
     
  3. JeffBowser

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    This alludes to a bigger human issue. When someone gets a great deal, a special price, what not, they feel great, they feel special, they feel they won the battle against "the man". This is well and good. But, life isn't fair. We can't all get the best deal, we can't all win all the time. If one accepts getting a great deal, one should also accept defeat with grace. Doesn't bother me I paid $299 for my HD DVR. So what. Maybe next time I will get one for $99, or $199. I got what I wanted when I wanted it, fair enough. If you got a better deal the same moment I got my deal, oh well. Bummer for me, better luck next time.

     
  4. upnorth

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    I totally agree I also paid $299 for mine back in Oct of 2006 and am glad I did and feel I definitely have got my moneys worth out of it.
    Oh and yes I still have the same HR20 they shipped me in Oct 2006 still working Great.;)
     
  5. hasan

    hasan Well-Known Member

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    There is no richer man in the world, than one who has contentment.:)

    Congrats, and enjoy your HR-DVR!

    (I just installed my 2nd HR20, this one a -100, yesterday. I paid more for it than I did for my HR20-700 last September.) I'm pleased with what I paid for both of them.
     
  6. btx

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    This guy simply isn't a troll. I'm in a quite similar situation with D*, and as soon as I explore my other local options, I will likely leave them. I've always been happy with D*, but for me, I'm willing to give them two of the following in order to get HD: 1) 2 year contract 2) $300 fee up front 3) monthly fee. However, they will not get all three from me--far more than it is worth.
     
  7. Upstream

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    BTX -- so you would be willing to pay $300 upfront plus $5 per month receiver lease fee if there were no 2 year commitment?
     
  8. sNEIRBO

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    Off topic - If the Auto Companies could rethink their business model I think they would do EXACTLY that! They would own the Gas Stations and give the cars away for free. They can't seem to make money selling cars right now . . .
     
  9. djwww98

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    You missed the point. I just brought up that stuff to put $100 into context. In most peoples life 50 bucks or 100 bucks goes through their hands on a regular basis. Yet it's a deal breaker for something they will end up paying over a thousand dollars a year for in many cases.
    And then you go right for the lease, the upfront cost, and the commitment. Again, you are just hung up on that psychologicaly. If the end result is X, what difference does it make how you get there?
     
  10. Mike-SVT

    Mike-SVT Cool Member

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    the $300 upgrade cost kept me from doing it until they added all the HD channels then I had to go for it!!
     
  11. Mark20

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    One thing that D* does not have going for it is an easy a means to recover a receiver. D* sends you a postage paid label but is at the mercy of you shipping it. Though they could bill your card, its possible that you could cancel it and they're out the cost of the box. The cable company can do truck rolls or let you drop it off at their office.

    D* wants a certain amount up front. Fine that's their model and you have a choice to accept it or not. But don't be penny wise and dollar foolish. Look at what it will cost you over a couple of years.

    D* & E* can probably also keep thir rate increases more pallatable since they can offer just about every household in the U.S. as a potential subscriber which even the large cable operators can't. That gives them a better bargaining position with the conent suppliers. Their physical plant is also a lot smaller and cheaper to maintain.

    As I said before, when I go HD I'm going to have to budget $$$ for a new D* receiver. I don't have a high D* bill, so I'm probably not going to get a super deal from them. But if I had an HD set and got the deal the OP got, I'd jump on it.

    And if D* does base the deal on your account history then they should say so. "Our standard offer is X, but since you have yada yada yada service and have been paying yada yada yada, we're happy to offer you whatever..."
     
  12. sNEIRBO

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    I would have taken that option! I go through technology too quickly . . . I hate being tied down!

    But I guess I did get the "2 out of 3" deal BTX outlined above -

    I got an HD DVR for $99
    AND an SD DVR for FREE

    I was a returning customer and used the BIG TEN promotion too.

    I just would have preferred the $300 and no contract option . . .
     
  13. Upstream

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    It makes a difference for two reasons:

    * Cash flow. For some people, the $300 cash today is harder to come up with than $10 per month for 30 months. (And I'm ignoring the time value of money here.)

    * Risk. With the DTV model, I run the risk of being stuck with a product which underperforms (like my R15) or a defective product. I can't return or exchange the receiver for a prorated refund of what I paid upfront. (And I'm ignoring the fact that DTV also locks you into a 2-year programming commitment.)
     
  14. STEVED21

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    Just got off the phone with D*. CSR first made no deal then suggested someone else might be able to. Transfered to another department where I was offered 2 for 199 each to "replace" my HR-10's with free installation. When I said it wasn't worth it to stay home for the install I asked if I could buy at BB or CC. He said yes and gave me $200 credit. It's already on my bill and I haven't even left my office. This was about my 8th try. Good luck.
     
  15. btx

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    Yes I would. It's an issue of risk. That's $300 risk to me if it sucks vs $700. Big difference. I want the product enough that I'd go for that.

    That said, $16/mo (5.99DVR+10HD) + 2 year commitment would be preferable to me.
     
  16. djwww98

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    This model is being looked at for electric cars. One company sets up recharge stations that are also capable of swapping out the whole battery in the same amount of time it now takes to fill up with gas. A monthly fee for X amount of miles and they provide the car and batteries for free.
     
  17. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    Call a car dealer and ask how it works to lease a car.

    Call a copier company and ask how it works to lease a copier.

    Each will tell you that there is typically an upfront cost, such as an acquisition fee in a personal property lease. Real property leases may have a deposit, etc.

    See Wikipedia for more information on how leases work.

    You can purchase an HR20 outright from DIRECTV for $749 and pay a monthly $4.99 mirroring fee.

    - or -

    You can pay a lease acquisition fee of $299 and pay a monthly $4.99 lease fee.

    Your pick!

    Either way, DIRECTV's SAC (Subscriber Acquisition Cost) per box is $696 up from $632 a year ago. That includes installation, cabling, dish, and multi-switches as needed. See the numbers at the bottom of this page.

    - Craig
     
  18. JeffBowser

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    I love it when common sense breaks out in a thread :D

     
  19. Upstream

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    - or -

    You get HD at a lower price from a different provider

    - or -

    You do without.
     
  20. Paul Secic

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    Dish has an SHARP TV offer.
     
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