I have a feeling this might be QUITE old. I was talking to an acquaintence, yesterday. He has DTV, said he's had it 3 or 4 years. He mentioned a lawsuit between DTV and "the other one". I said, "Uh, Dish Network?" He said, "Yes", but did not sound too sure of himself. Anyway, he said that DTV lost this particular lawsuit, but there was a temporary restraining order preventing the results of the lawsuit from being enforced against DTV. However, he thought it might go into effect "any time". He fears that his DVR might be "turned off". I asked if he had a "TiVO". He said that his was not a TiVO, but from what he described, it sure doesn't sound like a DTV R15, either (he said that to do a reset, he has to "press and hold" some button for 5 seconds). So, if he doesn't have a Tivo or an R15, what could he have? Also, what's up with this lawsuit, especially with regard to R15 users?