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DirecTV loses 17 channels today. And now the channels are back (7/20)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by sliderbob, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Jul 11, 2012 #21 of 102
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    fhsucade07

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    Like several others, I wouldn't have even known they went down had it not been for the mention on forums and major news outlets. I've been with DISH for a while now and have seen my fair share of these disputes roll around. I'm not knocking either provider but I like the odds of you guys seeing Viacom channels again than those of us with DISH seeing AMC. I feel like the loss of AMC was probably calculated on the part of DISH seeing as how many customers have been offered a ROKU to attempt to make up some of the difference. I just find it alarming that companies like Viacom can ask so much in this kind of economy when, in reality, many of their channels aren't doing that well in terms of viewership. It makes me think about ten years down the road: If something doesn't change (in terms of how programming packages are structured, etc) and salaries remain the same for most of us pay television will completely price itself out of the park.
     
  3. Jul 11, 2012 #23 of 102
    James Long

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    Stewart and Colbert were in reruns last week and are not scheduled this week. They are scheduled next Monday.

    There are other popular shows on Viacom station but the best of them are available on the program's websites ... which along with the falling ratings of channels like Nickelodeon is not an encouragement for DirecTV and DISH to pay more for the channels. Certainly not "30%" more.

    The big difference between the disputes is that Viacom is too big to lose. The channels will be back and DirecTV has conceded that point. All they have to do is find an acceptable price. AMC can be lost ... their channels are not in the same league as the top Viacom channels - and DISH will not accept a less than "creative" solution.

    Other than that ... it is good to see DirecTV and DISH agreeing on not paying too much for programming. They need to work together to keep the bills low for their respective subscribers.
     
  4. Jul 11, 2012 #24 of 102
    oldengineer

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    United we stand. I'm tired of seeing networks buying up channels and holding up providers like D*, E*, and cablecos by forcing them to accept all or nothing deals at unfair pricing. It's time for D*, E*, TWC et al to join together and negotiate contracts as a buyers cartel. AFAIK there's nothing illegal about buyers of services negotiating as a group.
     
  5. Jul 11, 2012 #25 of 102
    Stewart Vernon

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    I watch Stewart and Colbert (except when they are on hiatus of course).

    I also watch Futurama, new shows started a few weeks ago and a new one airs tonight.

    I also watched Beavis & Butthead on MTV when it came back recently... but that is on hiatus again.

    I'm not sure I can think of anything else I would miss... both Beavis/Butthead & Futurama I could get Blu-rays when they release... so Stewart/Colbert would be something I'd want to find an alternative to... that's about it.
     
  6. Jul 11, 2012 #26 of 102
    sigma1914

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    You used to be able to watch some shows, included ones you have listed, for free on their websites but now Viacom is removing them because of this.
     
  7. Jul 11, 2012 #27 of 102
    SayWhat?

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    http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...-online-episodes-in-DirecTV-fight-3699271.php
     
  8. Jul 11, 2012 #28 of 102
    Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah... that seems dumb. If they can't shut access off from just DirecTV customers, all they will do is make other customers of other providers mad and pile on in support of DirecTV.

    So, from my perspective, this is a "win" for DirecTV.
     
  9. Jul 11, 2012 #29 of 102
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    Wow thats pretty bad.

    I feel for our Dtv pals but this is a step in the right direction for everyone in the long run.
     
  10. Jul 12, 2012 #30 of 102
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    I'm sorry for the DTV customers just as I was for us DISH customers with AMC. But I have to admit my first thought when I saw the headline was to wonder if the folks who left DISH a couple weeks ago for DTV were still happy with their move.

    As many have said, every service provider, whether satellite or cable, will face these situations. They can give in to providers ridiculous demands for increases and keep raising their customers' bills or they can fight for reasonable rates, which may include dropping channels. From what I've seen DISH and DTV do a better job of holding down rates than cable.

    I never like losing channels but I haven't lost one yet that has ended life as I know it. And had DISH not taken a firm stand on several occassions I'm sure my bill would be $15 or $20 a month higher by now. Hope DTV prevails in this fight because eventually the fight will come around to DISH.
     
  11. Jul 12, 2012 #31 of 102
    thomas_d92

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    I am a Directv sub and wish D would just get rid of these channels and lower my rate.All these channels show are the crap reality shows that I never watch. I am planning on dropping D in November when my contract is up and going OTA and streaming. There is no value in satellite for me anymore . All the channels that I use to watch are all changing to this reality crap. History now is all pickers and pawn shows. MTV has no music etc. All this week I watched about an hour of D and the rest Netflix.
     
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    James Long

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    Perhaps part of a compromise would be to make current full length episodes available to people who could authenticate their cable/satellite subscription to the channels. Something along the lines of HBOGO or EPIX.

    That way people who are paying for the content via cable/satellite will be able to see it and the free via internet availability will not undercut the value of the cable/satellite subscription.
     
  13. Jul 12, 2012 #33 of 102
    SayWhat?

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    ONLY if those episodes/films were never broadcast OTA. Once they're shown OTA, the requirement of a pay TV subscription goes out the window.
     
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    The rich are doing just fine. Isn't that all that matters?
     
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    djlong

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    My daughter loves The Walking Dead. My wife and I are just getting into "Mad Men". As far as AMC is concerned, that's it. That's 26 hours per year.

    Two of my other favorites (in that I record every new episode) are The Daily Show and The Colbert Report - 4 hours per week, about 40+ weeks per year. That's *almost* the only thing I watch on Comedy Central (plus the occasional stand-up special).

    You can imagine which dispute would anger me more.
     
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    oldengineer

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    In a sound bite on CNBC Mike White stated that D* currently pays Viacom 500 million dollars a year in fees and that Viacom is asking for 1 billion dollars in additional revenues over the next 5 years.
     
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    I and the rest of my family are glad we switched to DISH last week.
     
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    As a DirecTV subscriber, I am thinking this will probably play out a short time. (In less than a week.) I want more channels out of this. I want TV Land in high definition. I want MTV2 in high def. I want Nick Jr. in HD. And I want completion of the suites from MTV, VH1, BET, and CMT.

    I am not caught up in which is the honest guy: DirecTV or Viacom. I suspect it's just another pissing match. But what's important is to get a new contract that gets the channels back (and more).

    About any of the Dish Network remarks over the loss of AMC Networks' programming: I hope it gets resolved before the end of the month. Sooner, even. This is cable-television programming, and we choose providers if we're fortunate to have competition, and I don't want Dish subs to suffer over the petty garbage between programmer and provider.
     
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    SayWhat?

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    I want the real BBC, not the one that shows Star Trek half the day.
    I want CBC.


    So, what's your point?
     
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    Welcome to the dish family!....as a dish customer since 1997 I can truly say I've been pleased with the service ive received.
     

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