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DirecTV Not Providing HBO GO for Roku

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by oakwcj, Oct 29, 2011.

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  1. Mar 6, 2012 #161 of 403
    oakwcj

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    Didn't mean to be snarky. If I were to hazard a guess about DirecTV's motivations, it would be that they're concerned that HBO will ultimately decouple HBOGO access from a cable/satellite subscription. I don't think that HBO would dare to jeopardize its relationship with cable providers now, although that could change in the future. I don't really know what their reasoning is. I would be happy if they'd follow through on an expanded HBO On Demand. I just want to have access to that content on a large screen.
     
  2. Mar 6, 2012 #162 of 403
    NewForceFiveFan

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    So what can you get on a Roku for free that is better than what's on Directv? And I'm not counting Netflix and other services which cost extra.
     
  3. Mar 6, 2012 #163 of 403
    Beerstalker

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    It's not that the content has to be free. Currently people can sign up for stuff like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, through Roku. There is concerns that HBO, Showtime, Starz, etc. might start allowing people to subscribe to them directly on their computers and on devices like the Roku. Then subscribers could drop their DirecTV subscription altogether and possibly save money.
     
  4. Mar 6, 2012 #164 of 403
    inkahauts

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    DirecTV wants to control your experience on your tv, but will allow you to have a more varied experience in your mobile devices.

    They always want the highest quality, short of blu ray on your tv sets, which roku can not consistently offer to everyone, there are to many variables.

    Hbo go access in a roku would also openly invite people to experience a possible replacement for their services. DirecTV I am sure sees a roku as a competitor, and they are absolutely correct about that. Roku is a competitor, albeit in its infancy. Why allow them any foothold if you don't have to.

    And as others have said, you don't want to give hbo and the others any encouragement to start selling their products not just through traditional carries, but also through things like rokus and apple tvs directly to customs, and cut DirecTV and cable companies out of the loop.

    I am also sure that a good amount of people would deactivate a box or two on their least used tvs if they had a roku with hbo go access. Especially in instances where they may have a box in a guest room that's rarely used. Those people could easily have just a roku in there for guests if it had hbo go with all it's movies....

    Now add in the people who would probably let their sons and daughters who go off to college with a roku use their account to view hbo go on tvs in their dorms, etc....

    There is a bunch of reasons DirecTV isn't allowing it in my opinion, and I don't blame them one bit, if I was in charge I'd do the same thing. I would not allow anyone else with a box that hooks up to a tv to offer up my content that I am getting paid to provide for my customers. that's my job.

    With that said, as a customer, I'd love to have it available on a roku or a xbox360, but I doubt it will ever happen.

    Roku devices could be the gateway to a la cart. I can see it now, go the traditional provider route for large groups of channels, but if you only want one or two, you can pay a much larger per channel fee, but only buy one or two channels and get it streamed to you via your roku. Of course, thad be for regular channels. For premiums, like hbo, you'd have to pay way more than what you pay a current provider for the same channels, but since you could avoid paying for any non premiums, it could come out a lot cheaper.

    I'd say starz will try it first, probably offering their channels for around 25 to 30 a month on streaming devices like a roku.
     
  5. Mar 6, 2012 #165 of 403
    ThePhantom

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    ... then what explains the the fact that my Samsung 6300 TV supports HBO GO w/my D* subscription, but does not work with the Roku?

    I'd like to activate my Roku, simply because it's far more friendly to use than the Samsung Smart Hub, IMO.

    Given the inconsistent activation, there's something else that's up here. Future availability of HBOGO on XBox and Sony Bravia platforms will be more telling as to D*'s motivations...
     
  6. Mar 7, 2012 #166 of 403
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    I thought we had already read that hbo go was not supposed to be available on Samsung tvs with DirecTV. The only possibility I can see is because thee two are also happily in bed together with rvu.
     
  7. Mar 7, 2012 #167 of 403
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    D* and HBO GO does work on Samsung TVs.

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/hbo-go-samsung-smart-tv/
     
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    man_rob

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    Yes, why single the Roku out?
     
  10. Mar 7, 2012 #170 of 403
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    This has been talked about at length. There is a reason why Comcast, DTV, Time Warner and others aren't supporting Roku.

    1) They don't need to
    2) Why enable them. Roku needs those guys more than cable \ SAT needs ROKU. Why prop up a competitor
    3) Samsung tv's aren't a competitor. XBOX is not a competitor. Roku is

    What is the benefit of DTV or any other to allow this? They lose money on the deal and prop up an over the top player? There is nothing to gain for them. This is a business decision and one that many other distributors have also made. If Roku support is that important to everyone, I would suggest switching to a provider that supports that functionality.
     
  11. Mar 7, 2012 #171 of 403
    oakwcj

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    And where is the new and improved HBO On Demand that the estimable Mr. Racer told us was coming RSN?
     
  12. Mar 7, 2012 #172 of 403
    ThePhantom

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    Outside of rhetoric and posturing, there's no substantial technical difference between a Roku, a Samsung Smart TV, an Xbox, PS3, or the countless connected blu-ray players out there. Suggesting that the Roku facilitates cord-cutting any more than the aforementioned devices doesn't hold water.

    If it weren't for the availability of HBO GO on my Samsung, I would have dumped HBO off of my subscription. I'd say there's a benefit to D*...

    With Dish's eastern arc satellite constellation, I'm seriously considering it.
     
  13. Mar 7, 2012 #173 of 403
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    Thats how I feel. The only reason I subscribed to HBO and Max is for the GO options. If they end up not letting Xbox 360 stream it I'll just cancel. I like having it on my Razr Maxx but I really wanted it on Xbox.

    And yea I know some of you will say DirecTV won't care if I don't subscribe and all that. Yes I know this but sometimes voting with your wallet helps. That being said I have no problems with DirecTV.
     
  14. Mar 7, 2012 #174 of 403
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    Things happen in a planned order. The HDUI upgrades happened first....those aren't complete yet but very close (HR34 still to come). Then the Pandora upgrades happen(ed). HBO OD is coming and is not far off. For the On Demand to get to where it needs to be, the HDUI changes had to happen first.

    There is a process and timeline for all these things to make sure they work properly, etc, etc. Not far off from what I understand.
     
  15. Mar 7, 2012 #175 of 403
    oakwcj

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    Thanks for the update. I know you're limited in how specific you can be.
     
  16. Mar 7, 2012 #176 of 403
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    Thanks for the heads up. I wonder if they are doing this since they are also a partner in rvu.

    Should be interesting to see if any other tv devices get access that don't also include rvu.
     
  17. Mar 7, 2012 #177 of 403
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    Yepp, god forbid Directv would have a plan...

    People just dont get it. Thanks as always.
     
  18. Mar 9, 2012 #178 of 403
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    Wrong. Roku is a electronic device, and media streamer. It gives non-connected TV's the same content as Samsung smart TVs, and Xbox. It offers absolutely nothing more than Samsung smart TVs, or Xbox does, and is no more a competitor than the other connected media streaming devices.
     
  19. ThePhantom

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    Welp, it looks like, as of today, Mediacom and Optimum (Cablevision) have gotten on the HBO GO/Roku train. We're still in the lurch :(

    Given the Netflix readily acknowledges that HBO GO is the competitor they fear the most, I still find it surprising the HBO doesn't force the hand of the providers (like D*). It's in HBO's best interest to be on as many devices as possible.

    It's not like we're asking D* to provide the Audience Network on the Roku. D* provides the plumbing, HBO is adding the value.

    The silence is deafening...
     
  20. inkahauts

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    Until I see DirecTV allow anyone other than Samsung on their smart tvs to provide hbo go on any platform that is primarily hooked up to a tv, then I think your smply seeing the results do DirecTV not wanting anyone else to have any opportunity to control your tv if they don't have to. They want to be the ones controlling your experience, and I don't blame them. They allow it on other devices because they are strictly mobile.
     
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