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DIRECTV now broadcasting 1080p HD

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. BattleZone

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    DirecTV's MPEG2 HD channels are (or were) downrezzed to 1280x1080. Dish uses the 1440x1080 resolution.
     
  2. Jeremy W

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    I had to do some digging, but it turns out we were both right. HD Theater was originally down-rezzed just like all of the other channels, but right around the time D10 was lit up, DirecTV stopped the down-rezzing on HD Theater.
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    OMG, did something just freeze over? :lol:
     
  4. Jeremy W

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    I don't know, but I think a pig just flew by my window.
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    !rolling
     
  6. cartrivision

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    That's for sure. I'd go even farther and say that I'd bet that most people who actually own very good sound systems and say that there is a big difference between "plain old" DD and the best of whatever is on Blu-ray, wouldn't be able to identify which was which in a blind comparison. Yes there are audio transports that are better than DD, but the audible differences aren't all that dramatic.
     
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    I have a H20-600. Will it work on my unit or do I need to upgrade to a new one? I don't want a DVR. In the MENU..HDTV...TV Resolutions it only shows 1080i
     
  8. Doug Brott

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    It does not work at this time, but it may work in the future.
     
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    I can definitely tell the difference!
     
  10. inkahauts

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    HBOP, Starz, etc... And all the PPV channels in HD...
     
  11. inkahauts

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    Maybe SIxto could check, but I do not believe that Directv is using all the bandwidth on each transponder, but so much that one whole additional channel won;t fit.. I'm guessing if they used the extra unused say 50% of one channel they could get a higher bit rate 1080p channel for one channel per transponder.. if they even did that.. Reality is that 1080p24 doesn't have to take up any more space than 1080i...
     
  12. harsh

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    That's not what A/53 says. Check the citation.
     
  13. inkahauts

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    Say what you wan;t I have participated in blind studies of any formats of audio, and I can tell the differences, and always choose the one that was supposed to be better.. I could tell.. But I also realize that many people would never hear and feel the differences... Don't say it isn't possible, because it is, but you have to have good hearing, and know what your listening to...

    I never understand why people insist everything is always the same.. Its not.. I will never forget the day someone said that MP3 's are every bit as good as cd's.. Took me 20 mins to stop laughing....
     
  14. harsh

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    I was trying to be careful about fields versus frames and I used the wrong term. In any event, OTA 1080(i or p) maxes out at 30fps.

    Note that ATSC doesn't demand the retarded frame rates. 30fps is just as valid as 29.97fps.
     
  15. inkahauts

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    DD vs Uncompressed? If its anything with a real dynamic range.. Most people would be able to tell the difference, (yes, I think even the shadow would hear that difference) specially if they closed there eyes.. The reverberations and harmonics will resonate extremely differently, and thus change the overall sound field and sound....

    In the end though,. the biggest determining factor from the begining is the quality of the actual mix and recording... I have heard low quality schemes sound far better than hi quality ones of the exact same music simply because the mix was tremendously better on the lower quality platform...

    There are many variables...
     
  16. Jeremy W

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    Nobody said it isn't possible. I can hear the difference, but I know I am outside of the norm.
     
  17. MIKE0616

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    What about 720p since that is what most of the D* HD channels are broadcast in?
     
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    Like making more money? :D
     
  19. veryoldschool

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    :confused: "Most?"
    "Most" of the channels I watch are 1080, but it simply comes down to what the broadcaster is sending, since DirecTV doesn't change resolution.
    [BTW even in the HD lite days 720p was always 720x1280]
     
  20. MIKE0616

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    Who has the list of what channels are in what res? I do know that before I put tape over the lights on my DVRs, most were indicating they were 720, not 1080.

    So far, we have only 1 (count em, one) channel in 1080p. Out of the other 125 or so others that are in HD, how many are in what format?

    Why would this be interesting? If channels chose to cheap out up to now, how many are going to invest in the hardware needed to support 1080p? (ESPN comes to mind, as well as the FOX sports channels as 720 broadcasters that would be better in 1080p, IMO.)
     

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