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DirecTV Pulling MPEG2 HD Locals in LA DMA?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by w6fxj, Jul 5, 2006.

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  1. Jul 5, 2006 #1 of 11
    w6fxj

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    :( Has anyone in the Los Angeles DMA received a letter from DirecTV saying you will lose Channels 81, 83, 87 and 89 on August 2, 2006? I pulled this letter out of my mailbox today (5 July 06). The weird part about this letter is the fact that I am now in the LA DMA (zip 92311) and that the DirecTV locals availability web page says my HD channels are 81, 83, 87 and 89.

    When I called DirecTV to ask about this the first CSR said they had to disconnect my LA HD Locals because the FCC told them to. The second CSR said I has distant HD networks from LA and that I could get my LA local HD stations via MPEG4. Great if I had the MPEG4 HD DVR instead of two HR10-250'S. I think someone screwed up the database for LA. Anyone else get a similar letter?
     

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  2. Jul 5, 2006 #2 of 11
    GeorgeLV

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    I can't wait for them to pull all of the HD DNS. I'd much rather have 8 more national HD channels for all than redundant HD locals for a few.
     
  3. Jul 5, 2006 #3 of 11
    jonaswan2

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    I hope DirecTV aims for that date for the HR20 so that people that want a DVR can get it and still recieve locals. Sounds like a kick in the booty for H10-250 owners that have to recieve the DNS though. Sorry.
     
  4. Jul 5, 2006 #4 of 11
    Earl Bonovich

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    Intresting.

    We did hear rumblings about this when they started the rollout of MPEG-4 replacement units..

    Didn't think it would be that fast though.

    Also from earlier reports this year, a LOT of the networks wanted the DNS pulled a lot sooner then they are..
     
  5. Jul 6, 2006 #5 of 11
    keenan

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    If I could get OTA I would agree but for many who can't losing those feeds means no network channels, at the very least no way to record them.
     
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    GeorgeLV

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    The vast majority of the people receiving HD DNS had it from automatic O&O waivers anyways, and they will continue to be served by HD LiL. I'd rather not wait until 2007 to get another HD channel just because some people would be without a HD-DVR solution for a few weeks. I really don't think the number of people that were eligible for HD DNS for living in the middle of nowhere outweigh the benefits of D* more national HD.
     
  7. Jul 6, 2006 #7 of 11
    keenan

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    No doubt it's inevitable, it's just too bad they didn't have DVR solution in place by the time they cut them off, especially since every other major carrier does.

    Based on past history with DirecTV, I'll bet there are some who still have DNS after the Aug 2 cutoff mentioned in that letter.
     
  8. Jul 6, 2006 #8 of 11
    ScoBuck

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    Unless I am missing something - this letter doesn't in any way open up the possibliities of them adding any new national HD channels right now.

    It mentions that if you can receive the MPEG4 HD lils THEN you will have YOUR DNS turned off. To me that means for sure that the signals are still going to remain live until EVERY DMA served by the West Coast feeds has HD locals turned on.

    Even by the end of 2006 they have only announced a TOTAL of 50 markets nationwide to be lit - by my reading that means there are still over 150 DMAs left and half or so are covered by the west coast feeds.
     
  9. Jul 6, 2006 #9 of 11
    ScoBuck

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    I see you have changed your mind a bit regarding getting the new HD-DVR when it comes out. That's good.
     
  10. w6fxj

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    Yes, the letter indicates that the "distant" MPEG2 LA (and NY) HD channels will continue until DirecTV completes their rollout of MPEG4 local HD channels. That made me wonder if the letter was NOT intended for LA market subscribers. Last night I finally reached a Customer Retention specialist who understood the contradiction between the letter and the DirecTV Locals web page. Cindy, in the Idaho DirecTV call center, went off to find out why I received the letter. She found that the problem was caused by four lines in my account activity as follows:

    Network: CBS HD Monthly*
    Network: FOX HD Monthly*
    Network: NBC HD Monthly*
    Network: ABC HD Monthly*

    According to Cindy my account had been authorized to receive the LA HD channels as Distant Networks. However, my subscription to Total Choice Plus includes receipt of the LA MPEG2 Local HD channels on 81, 83, 87 and 89. She thought that she could pull the so-called DNS HD authorizations and I would continue to receive them based on the Total Choice Plus authorization. Then, with my fingers crossed, Cindy took one HD DNS authorization off at a time until all four were pulled. All of my HD receivers continued to receive channels 81, 83, 87 and 89. When I checked my on-line account the four "Network: HD Monthly line were gone! And things are still OK this morning.

    The bottom line: Some DirecTV subscribers in the LA and NYC market areas MAY have the extra HD DNS authorized in their account. These subscribers WILL receive the turn-off letter. However, if they subscribe to Total Choice Plus or higher, they will NOT lose the MPEG2 HD local HD channels for their area until DirecTV stops using channels 80 through 89 for NY and LA MPEG2 HD stations.
     
  11. keenan

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    Interesting, my account shows the same thing for the four networks, plus an entry for FOX-SD-E/W for $2.25. Since SF has had local HD since last Nov I suppose I should be getting a letter.
     
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