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DIRECTV Satellite Discussion D-14 @99W

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Jun 17, 2010 #1 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Next up, DirecTV-14, 2014.

    Space Systems / Loral (SS/L) Selected to Provide High-Power Satellite to DirecTV:
    http://www.ssloral.com/html/pressreleases/pr20100611.html
    RB-1 (S2711 at 99°) FCC Filings:
    Application: http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/ib/forms/reports/swr031b.hts?q_set=V_SITE_ANTENNA_FREQ.file_numberC/File+Number/%3D/SATAMD2008011400013&prepare=&column=V_SITE_ANTENNA_FREQ.file_numberC/File+Number

    Original (1/2008): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=-141474

    Grant (7/2009): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=727403

    Bond (8/2009): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=737367

    Build (7/2010): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=837188

    Modification (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=907941

    Schedule-S (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=908556

    RB-2 (S2712 at 103°) FCC Filings:
    Original (1/2008): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=-141476

    Letter (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=908362

    Letter (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=910484

    Modification (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=907995

    Schedule-S (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=908568


     
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  2. Jun 17, 2010 #2 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Placeholder for reference information.

    Ku
    101° / 110° / 119°​

    Ka-Hi
    Spaceway-1 (LiL: 103°)

    Spaceway-2 (LiL: 99°)

    DirecTV-12 (CONUS: 103°)​

    Ka-Lo
    DirecTV-10 (CONUS/LiL: 103°)

    DirecTV-11 (CONUS/LiL: 99°)

    DirecTV-12 (LiL: 103°)​
    Ka / BSS
    DirecTV-14 (CONUS/LiL: 99°)​

    Two Line Element (TLE) Format:
    A NORAD two-line element (TLE) set consists of two 69-character lines of data which describe in detail a spacecraft's trajectory around the earth.

    Calculated and published by the U.S. government regularly.

    http://celestrak.com/columns/v04n03/

    http://www.space-track.org/tle_format.html
    Boeing DirecTV-10/DirecTV-11/DirecTV-12 Fact Sheet:
     
  3. Jun 17, 2010 #3 of 3078
    Sixto

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  4. Jul 12, 2010 #4 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Other thread (D10/D12) went quiet for a couple of weeks, so good time to close.

    Figured would finally re-open this thread, first few posts still need MUCH work.

    Latest news is FCC applications for new earth stations (E100079 & E100080):
    Haven't yet looked at frequencies to see if this is needed for new D12 HD. At least new up-links to support D11 LiL.
     
  5. Jul 12, 2010 #5 of 3078
    doctor j

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    Origin application to communicate with KA sats:
    D8, D9S, D10, D11, SW1, SW2.
    Amendment to add D12

    100079 SWUF KA3 at Tuscon Pima, AZ
    100080 SWDF KA3 at Benson Cochise, AZ

    Doctor j
     
  6. Jul 12, 2010 #6 of 3078
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    Not exactly sure what the "D" stands for in "SWDF" for the Benson Cochise, Az. site, but still interesting info. for us techno-geeks nonetheless. :)
     
  7. Jan 26, 2011 #7 of 3078
    sarhaynes

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    If I remember the discussion in the D12 thread, the next sattelite that D* will launch is D14. I have looked, but I have not found a thread that has any information on filings or rumors. Do any of the sattelite guys out there have anything new and juicy for us.
    I know that D* and E* both said they would have 100% LiL coverage by 2012, but I don't think either of them can do that without launching another bird (or two).
    I still live in one of the 6% of the country that D* still doesn't cover.
     
  8. Jan 26, 2011 #8 of 3078
    Shades228

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    I don't recall any announcement from DirecTV stating that they are doing 100% locals. Dish is using a marketing way to do it so that they comply with some statutes. Either way the last thing I read was just a PO to order them had been announced a while ago. You'll know if something starts to happen as Sixto, and Lamelefty will start posting FCC filings and hdtvfan0001 will somehow double his posts.
     
  9. Jan 26, 2011 #9 of 3078
    sarhaynes

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    I thought I remembered something about when they were both talking to Congress about the law that passed. I thought the caveat was that they were required to have 100% SD coverage by 2012 (the year could be off).

    I guess this depends on your definition of "coverage" and "100%". :lol:
     
  10. Jan 26, 2011 #10 of 3078
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    Yeah, I kind of knew this "news". I was hoping something more recent. It has been 7 months since Loral supposedly starting constructing D14. Wikipedia says a 2013 launch date, but it had no references, so my guess is that its someone's guess.

    I just know that the FCC paperwork has a lead time associated with it, so I hoping that someone that is "hooked in" might have some additional information.

    The silence is deafening...
     
  11. Jan 26, 2011 #11 of 3078
    hdtvfan0001

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    There is always silence between launches because the cycle from:

    satellite order...to manufacturer...to test...to delivery...to launch is often measured in years, not months.
     
  12. Jan 26, 2011 #12 of 3078
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    As far as Dish goes, the launch of spotbeam configured Questzsat-1 to 77W late this year will give them much increased capacity for LIL. The sat at 77 now is a CONUS bird with the beams pointed away from Canada border regions. Spots at 77w might also free up some markets in the east that are only on 129 (my presuming they will get moved off of 129 and to 77.)

    As far as DirecTV goes, I think their plans for migration of all remaining markets off of 72.5 and onto 99 or 103 is probabaly taking a lot of their 2011 focus and will of course eat up some portion of the available bandwidth there too.
     
  13. Jan 26, 2011 #13 of 3078
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    My guess is that DirecTV-14 is going to be very similar to DirecTV-12 at 103 WL by providing Ka A-band CONUS beam service from 99 WL. Maybe a 99ca? :)

    The only major difference is it will likely have a full CONUS coverage reverse-DBS band payload unlike DirecTV-12's limited 4 spotbeam RB-2A package.
     
  14. Jan 26, 2011 #14 of 3078
    Shades228

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    If everything goes smoothly with reverse DBS I could see them putting it at the 101.
     
  15. Jan 26, 2011 #15 of 3078
    RAD

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    Dripping...
    But it also has a Ka payload, does DIRECTV has licences for Ka at 101?
     
  16. Jan 26, 2011 #16 of 3078
    Shades228

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    You mean KU and honestly I don't know if they can do KU at the 101. I would guess not but who knows what they have in the works.
     
  17. Jan 26, 2011 #17 of 3078
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    So we are talking glacial speeds here. Then again with global warming, glaciers are moving faster... :D
     
  18. Jan 26, 2011 #18 of 3078
    RAD

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    Dripping...
    101 is Ku now and yes I meant Ka since part of the announcement said:

     
  19. Jan 26, 2011 #19 of 3078
    Shades228

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    No just right now there's really nothing to talk about. Once the FCC filings happen we'll talk for months about it. The first FCC filings will have what the bird is setup with and for. Orbital slot won't be correct but based on the load they setup on it we can usually tell what it's for and it's plans.

    We will do that for a few months and then another filing will come out and we'll talk more for months then a launch date will be announced and we'll anticipate this for months and then finally it will launch which will let us argue about PPV and HD channels for a month while it gets into position. Then we start all over in about a year.
     
  20. Jan 26, 2011 #20 of 3078
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    You're right sorry it's been a long day. Time for some rest!
     

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